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Krishach
post Jul 16 2012, 07:13 PM
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As mentioned in another post, one of our GMs came up with the idea to school some of our newbies hard-knock style for refusing to get with the program despite an enormous amount of leniency by GMs in 5+ runs. So, the carrot is going away, and we shall employ the stick.

Now, there is a storyline reason for this. I mentioned in another post: the team strongarmed a Johnson who sent us into a nightmare far above and beyond what we were paid for. I played my character on this, who is generally thick-headed, but our group both extorted him, and left him alive. Johnson is now wanting to regain dominance and honor and all that jazz.

The true purpose, though, is to make a run that will screw them for their blitheness. Not their mistakes: everyone's dice fail, but for out-and-out ignoring good runner sense. The hardest part? It has to be REALLY obvious in hindsight how badly they stumbled, and where, without metagaming. People at the table pointing it out has left no lasting impression. Most importantly, I want the characters to have a chance to survive the affair, even when being stupid.

Next step after this is a lot of character remakes. No more freebies.

I would like to ask the community some GOOD shadowrun habits (things they SHOULD do), and how to make it painfully obvious that they missed it. I would like to ask BAD shadowrunner habits (stupid obvious bad) and how to make it painfully obvious to the unaware they should stop. How would you educate a thick head without breaking it? I've got a list, but there has to be a lot I haven't thought of.
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- Krishach   Important Lessons for New Runners   Jul 16 2012, 07:13 PM
- - Warlordtheft   Try the search function, threads like this pop up ...   Jul 16 2012, 07:55 PM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Jul 16 2012, 02:55 ...   Jul 19 2012, 09:19 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Jul 19 2012, 05:19 AM) I ...   Jul 19 2012, 01:13 PM
- - SpellBinder   Regarding numbers 10 and 11, a few things to add: ...   Jul 16 2012, 08:27 PM
|- - VykosDarkSoul   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Jul 16 2012, 02:27 P...   Jul 17 2012, 05:17 PM
||- - CanRay   QUOTE (VykosDarkSoul @ Jul 17 2012, 12:17...   Jul 17 2012, 05:31 PM
|- - Krishach   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Jul 16 2012, 08:27 P...   Jul 19 2012, 08:04 AM
||- - mister__joshua   QUOTE (Krishach @ Jul 19 2012, 09:04 AM) ...   Jul 19 2012, 09:12 AM
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||- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Krishach @ Jul 19 2012, 04:04 AM) ...   Jul 20 2012, 11:24 PM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jul 21 2012, 07...   Jul 21 2012, 01:09 AM
||- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (toturi @ Jul 20 2012, 09:09 PM) Fr...   Jul 21 2012, 01:40 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Jul 17 2012, 04:27 A...   Jul 19 2012, 08:58 AM
- - Xenefungus   The bad thing about stunbolt is just that it feels...   Jul 20 2012, 11:24 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Jul 20 2012, 05:24 AM...   Jul 20 2012, 01:25 PM
- - Xenefungus   Yeah, mages can counter mages. But no one else.   Jul 20 2012, 07:16 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Jul 20 2012, 01:16 PM...   Jul 20 2012, 08:50 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Jul 20 2012, 12:16 PM...   Jul 20 2012, 10:47 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Jul 20 2012, 04:47 P...   Jul 20 2012, 11:45 PM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 21 2012, 07...   Jul 21 2012, 01:06 AM
||- - Glyph   QUOTE (toturi @ Jul 20 2012, 06:06 PM) It...   Jul 21 2012, 03:17 AM
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|- - onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk   nvm just scrolled down and saw the mres being ackn...   Jul 22 2012, 12:37 AM
- - Xenefungus   Those 4 dice really wont help against any competen...   Jul 20 2012, 09:15 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Jul 20 2012, 02:15 PM...   Jul 20 2012, 09:25 PM
|- - Wakshaani   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 20 2012, 04...   Jul 20 2012, 10:22 PM
- - Stahlseele   "If the GM is smiling, you back yourself and ...   Jul 20 2012, 10:26 PM
- - SpellBinder   Yeah, I know it's a negative. It's not li...   Jul 21 2012, 12:19 AM
- - CanRay   The Johnson is going to screw you in the end. ......   Jul 21 2012, 12:51 AM
- - SpellBinder   Dang, forgot about that second to last sentence in...   Jul 21 2012, 04:01 AM
- - Jericho Alar   QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Jul 20 2012, 06:24 AM...   Jul 22 2012, 05:56 AM
- - CanRay   You can solve any kind of problem with the judicio...   Jul 22 2012, 07:43 AM
- - Umidori   Do they make astral explosives? ~Umi   Jul 22 2012, 07:52 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 22 2012, 02:52 AM) D...   Jul 22 2012, 04:39 PM
- - Krishach   We don't really railroad our players, so a car...   Jul 22 2012, 03:38 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (Krishach @ Jul 22 2012, 09:38 AM) ...   Jul 22 2012, 06:49 PM
- - Windling   Legwork: Good runners do it, and they do it to C...   Jul 22 2012, 06:29 PM
- - Wakshaani   Geeze, depends on what lessons you want your waywa...   Jul 23 2012, 02:08 AM
- - Jeremiah Kraye   I'm starting a grounds up newbie crew in my fi...   Jul 23 2012, 12:08 PM
- - Krishach   Have them read the beginning to Runners Companion....   Jul 24 2012, 01:42 AM
- - Rip the Jackker   I can't believe that no one as clearly stated ...   Jul 24 2012, 05:17 AM
- - CanRay   I've waited as long as I could: Always know w...   Jul 24 2012, 05:32 AM
|- - Wakshaani   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 23 2012, 11:32 PM) I...   Jul 24 2012, 03:13 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jul 24 2012, 10:13 AM)...   Jul 24 2012, 03:53 PM
|- - Wakshaani   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 24 2012, 10:53 AM) Wh...   Jul 24 2012, 04:40 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jul 24 2012, 06:40 PM)...   Jul 24 2012, 08:29 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 24 2012, 03:29 PM...   Jul 24 2012, 08:52 PM
- - bannockburn   Mettwurst?! This. Is. SCHWARTE! Yes, I w...   Jul 24 2012, 08:37 PM


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