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 Apr 17 2004, 03:50 AM
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Being totally fair I realize they are very very concealable but 4L isn't much even if the target is unsuspecting and unarmored. Let say you use glazers which would bring that to 6M and do a headshot, thats only 6S, decent but very few times you'll be in a istuation vs an unarmored target. Anyone have experience where a holdout has saved some butt or scored a kill?
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cutter07 Hold out pistols, is there a point? Apr 17 2004, 03:50 AM
Kanada Ten RE: Hold out pistols, is there a point? Apr 17 2004, 03:51 AM Luke Hardison It's saved my hoop twice. Once it was a boot ... Apr 17 2004, 03:55 AM cutter07 was thinking morrissey elite for my backup. Heavy ... Apr 17 2004, 03:58 AM Wireknight Stylistically, it never hurts your badass image to... Apr 17 2004, 04:02 AM Moonstone Spider If you're an adept and can throw 18 dice on yo... Apr 17 2004, 04:14 AM cutter07 Would be nice if there was a good holdout someone ... Apr 17 2004, 04:15 AM Sunday_Gamer Use explosive rounds in your hold out =)
I know ... Apr 17 2004, 04:24 AM Arethusa QUOTE (cutter07)Would be nice if there was a good ... Apr 17 2004, 04:29 AM A Clockwork Lime Screw holdouts. The Walther PB-120 has the same C... Apr 17 2004, 04:32 AM Arethusa QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime) Screw holdouts. The Walt... Apr 17 2004, 04:41 AM cutter07 yeah the walther aint bad but for 1 point conceal ... Apr 17 2004, 04:45 AM mfb light pistols in general are for shit. you can tal... Apr 17 2004, 05:19 AM A Clockwork Lime QUOTE (Arethusa) Which is why I started working on... Apr 17 2004, 06:14 AM Arethusa Honestly, if you're not keen on houserules but... Apr 17 2004, 06:26 AM A Clockwork Lime Err. Yeah. Settle down there, boss.
Once again,... Apr 17 2004, 06:49 AM broho_pcp I am not sure about this, but...
Isn't the con... Apr 17 2004, 07:03 AM mfb there are rules for that on page 236 of SR3. hilar... Apr 17 2004, 07:13 AM Arethusa QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime)Err. Yeah. Settle down the... Apr 17 2004, 07:22 AM CardboardArmor Hold-out pistols, in my opinion, have two major us... Apr 17 2004, 07:26 AM Kagetenshi There's always that one flechette hold-out. 4M... Apr 17 2004, 07:30 AM cutter07 QUOTE Err. Yeah. Settle down there, boss.
My tho... Apr 17 2004, 07:31 AM Arethusa I'd like to take this time to point out that w... Apr 17 2004, 07:34 AM The White Dwarf Hold outs do have a use in a canon game. Its just... Apr 17 2004, 07:45 AM mfb yeah, but holdouts aren't some kind of hard-to... Apr 17 2004, 08:04 AM Arethusa Dwarf, I still don't see what a holdout can do... Apr 17 2004, 08:28 AM Modesitt Holdouts exist for three purposes.
1, Load with c... Apr 17 2004, 08:51 AM Firewall QUOTE (Moonstone Spider) If you're an adept an... Apr 17 2004, 09:11 AM Arethusa If you already have a sword, why not an Ares Preda... Apr 17 2004, 09:34 AM Firewall In my group, his hold out pistol is the only thing... Apr 17 2004, 09:45 AM Arethusa I cannot imagine what ingame reasons you could eve... Apr 17 2004, 09:53 AM Voran I think that hold-out pistols don't really com... Apr 17 2004, 10:17 AM toturi Hold outs pistols are at 10P-E.
Lights are at 8P-... Apr 17 2004, 10:31 AM Firewall re: the swordsman with the hold-out.
He is firing... Apr 17 2004, 10:56 AM TinkerGnome My characters often go with a Morrisey Elan with H... Apr 17 2004, 12:57 PM blakkie QUOTE (Voran) ....Under SR, since there's an u... Apr 17 2004, 03:09 PM Solidcobra That isnt a good thing...
The sammy will still go ... Apr 17 2004, 03:19 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Solidcobra)Fact: A fake ID as a Sportsman g... Apr 17 2004, 03:45 PM Capt. Dave QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)
In most civilized cou... Apr 17 2004, 04:28 PM Solidcobra Technically there should be some kind of ID that c... Apr 17 2004, 04:44 PM blakkie QUOTE (Capt. Dave @ Apr 17 2004, 04:28 PM) QU... Apr 17 2004, 04:49 PM Smiley QUOTE (Capt. Dave) QUOTE (Austere Emancipator ... Apr 17 2004, 04:49 PM Smiley Damn, he beat me to it. Apr 17 2004, 04:50 PM Capt. Dave QUOTE (blakkie)
You didn't notice the word ... Apr 17 2004, 05:09 PM blakkie QUOTE (Capt. Dave) QUOTE (blakkie @ Apr 17 20... Apr 17 2004, 05:18 PM Austere Emancipator What I meant was that if a firearm is illegal to o... Apr 17 2004, 05:36 PM The White Dwarf Ill tell you the reason... because if you use it a... Apr 17 2004, 05:41 PM Firewall QUOTE (The White Dwarf) Rolling a 13 is hard, roll... Apr 17 2004, 06:04 PM Capt. Dave Most states that allow personal carry utilize the ... Apr 17 2004, 06:57 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Capt. Dave)As to the whole carrying it on a... Apr 17 2004, 07:08 PM Smiley QUOTE (blakkie) Couldn't i just pass on the wh... Apr 17 2004, 07:14 PM Arethusa QUOTE (blakkie) QUOTE (Capt. Dave @ Apr 17 20... Apr 17 2004, 07:43 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Arethusa)I wonder from what Mulvihill drew ... Apr 17 2004, 08:17 PM Smiley QUOTE (Arethusa) But, in defense of our more South... Apr 18 2004, 06:09 AM Voorhees I personally consider every state except Californi... Apr 18 2004, 06:39 AM A Clockwork Lime Californians have no room to talk. Anyone who ele... Apr 18 2004, 06:42 AM sidekick Well, here's one reason why a hold out might b... Apr 18 2004, 06:44 AM toturi QUOTE (sidekick) Well, here's one reason why a... Apr 18 2004, 06:47 AM A Clockwork Lime We must hang around very different kinds of chicks... Apr 18 2004, 06:52 AM Gotti I feel perhaps, that many people don't underst... Apr 18 2004, 06:52 AM CardboardArmor Everyone wants to be Neo. Apr 18 2004, 07:27 AM Cain IMG, streetline specials and Walther palm pistols ... Apr 18 2004, 08:35 AM Arethusa QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)Maybe it was wishful th... Apr 18 2004, 07:32 PM CountZero QUOTE (CardboardArmor) Everyone wants to be Neo. ... Apr 18 2004, 09:19 PM lacemaker As someone has already indicated, I think their us... Apr 19 2004, 02:42 AM Cain QUOTE The Walther PB-120, a light pistol, has a co... Apr 19 2004, 03:27 AM Arethusa Yes, tiny bit more. I included the Walther mainly... Apr 19 2004, 04:18 AM Cain QUOTE Yes, tiny bit more. I included the Walther m... Apr 19 2004, 07:09 AM imperialus my old char was a street sam who specialized in pi... Apr 19 2004, 07:41 AM Arethusa QUOTE (Cain)You're talking 1400 versus 7... Apr 19 2004, 07:53 AM Firewall QUOTE (lacemaker) As someone has already indicated... Apr 19 2004, 08:16 AM Crusher Bob Wound TNs do not effect resisting damage or drain.... Apr 19 2004, 08:22 AM Firewall I see... They are probably just my group's ho... Apr 19 2004, 10:15 AM noname_hero Given the lower Body most mages have, their (on av... Apr 19 2004, 10:45 AM Lilt Is there a point to hold-out pistols?
Yes.
Is the... Apr 19 2004, 11:44 AM A Clockwork Lime I just think it's sad that a hold-out pistol c... Apr 19 2004, 01:36 PM Firewall I suppose in the end, hold-outs are like long-coat... Apr 19 2004, 04:03 PM Neon Tiger QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime) I just think it's sad... Apr 19 2004, 07:46 PM Lilt Well: By canon you don't get to stage damage l... Apr 19 2004, 10:13 PM Kagetenshi No, it counts as an extra point of Body for damage... Apr 19 2004, 10:28 PM Lilt Isn't the dermal armor still a variety of armo... Apr 19 2004, 10:38 PM Aesir I didn´t read all it says in this thread so it may... Apr 19 2004, 11:05 PM Smiley I always thought of the hold outs as those teeny l... Apr 19 2004, 11:12 PM Arethusa Something like a Beretta Tomcat or Glock 36 holds ... Apr 19 2004, 11:18 PM Smiley That's still being generous. Apr 19 2004, 11:31 PM gknoy QUOTE (Firewall) street punks need a demonstration... Apr 19 2004, 11:38 PM Austere Emancipator Anyone got a muzzle velocity quote on a .45ACP or ... Apr 19 2004, 11:39 PM gknoy QUOTE (Smiley @ Apr 19 2004, 06:12 PM) I alwa... Apr 19 2004, 11:41 PM Arethusa They certainly are. It was the .22 Derringers tha... Apr 19 2004, 11:41 PM Kagetenshi I'd say mage, sam, sword. In order of decreasi... Apr 20 2004, 12:31 AM gknoy hehe ...
@Arethusa: Those .45 cal derringers soun... Apr 20 2004, 01:01 AM Arethusa They'd hit a bit harder than SR light pistols,... Apr 20 2004, 01:39 AM Cain I actually built similar guns, using a base Heavy ... Apr 20 2004, 02:18 AM
Arethusa Yeah, probably the COP357 is what you have in mind... Apr 20 2004, 02:28 AM  |
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