Shooting people with blackpowder firearms in the future, A way to circumvent modern tracking technology? Options

[almost normal]

If you don't have a healthy fear of explosives, you shouldn't be anywhere near them. *shrug*

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

If you don't have a healthy fear of explosives, you shouldn't be anywhere near them. *shrug*

I do not FEAR explosives. I have a Healthy RESPECT for them, and worked with them for many years. BIG Difference.
But, if you want to let your fears rule you, that is okay by me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[almost normal]

I choose to use fear, not pretend it doesn't exist like some bullshit 80's macho stereotype. *shrug*

[Draco18s]

I choose to use fear, not pretend it doesn't exist like some bullshit 80's macho stereotype. *shrug*

You don't have to be afraid of using a dangerous object in a safe and responsible manner.

You do need to be aware of what it can do if misused, but that doesn't mean you need to be afraid of it.

(Case in point: the guy who invented TNT got the Nobel Peace Price for it.)

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

You don't have to be afraid of using a dangerous object in a safe and responsible manner.

You do need to be aware of what it can do if misused, but that doesn't mean you need to be afraid of it.

Thank You Draco18s. Well Said. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
And Almost Normal, There is nothing about Explosives that makes me fear them, but as I said, I have a healthy respect for them. Of course, if you have never worked with them, well, then your fear is understandable.

[almost normal]

to consider or anticipate (something unpleasant) with a feeling of dread or alarm

I'd rather have it in my head that the giant pile of explosives can explode and be ready for it then act fearless and get my balls blown off.

I like my balls. But that's just me. *shrug*

[Lionhearted]

(Case in point: the guy who invented TNT got the Nobel Peace Price for it.)

And the guy who invented nitroglycerin founded the Nobel prize committee through his will. He did so because of the destruction his creation had enabled, he wanted the scientific advances that benefitted humanity to receive more recognition. Ironically the peace price wasn't in the original will. It was added later for reasons I cannot recall right now... Funny how things work out, neh?

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I'd rather have it in my head that the giant pile of explosives can explode and be ready for it then act fearless and get my balls blown off.

I like my balls. But that's just me. *shrug*

Who says that I act stupidly around explosives (Because in this case, that is what fearless means). I RESPECT their potential to cause harm, but no more so than I do with a Firearm. I understand them, and I respect them, therefore I do not have to fear them.

Again, if fear works for you, that is fine, but it is extrememly limiting.

[almost normal]

You're the one who said you have no fear of explosives, not me. *shrug*
In fact, you said if you weren't fearless, you shouldn't be around explosives. *shrug*
I'm just pointing out how terrible that advice is. *shrug*

[Lionhearted]

Fear makes people act irrationally, it makes them more likely to make mistakes or hurry up a process to get it over with.
Better then to approach it calmly, armed with knowledge and a caution served from knowledge and respect, not fear.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Fear makes people act irrationally, it makes them more likely to make mistakes or hurry up a process to get it over with.
Better then to approach it calmly, armed with knowledge and a caution served from knowledge and respect, not fear.

Thank You Lionhearted. What more really need be said?

[almost normal]

Thank You Lionhearted. What more really need be said?

*shrug*

[Halinn]

I'd rather have it in my head that the giant pile of explosives can explode and be ready for it then act fearless and get my balls blown off.

I like my balls. But that's just me. *shrug*

Don't forget the fact that (most) explosives don't just randomly explode. The energy needed to start the reactions is beyond what happens in a steady state.

[LurkerOutThere]

I choose to use fear, not pretend it doesn't exist like some bullshit 80's macho stereotype. *shrug*

An ITG discussion in an archaic firearms thread? I feel like I should have put odds on this


As others have said:

If you have the skills and means to make black powder weapons and materials from scratch you probably can do the same for modern weapons or retrofit them to not have the traceability issues your trying to avoid.

Inferior technology is inferior in pretty much every way.

Jurisdictional Loopholes: Remember that SR is a dystopia with themes of police privatization, corporate extraterritoriality, and bureaucratic decay. In short legal loopholes only work on oppoents who actually honor them either through obligation or binding.

Also I would never ever ever ever take legal advice from bullshido, and would certainly check with an actual lawyer or local DA before I did something as stupid as storing a black powder weapon in my vehicle for an extended period of time (it's a stupid idea anyway). In many states what will actually get you is not whether the weapon is or is not a firewarm but if it is concealed or not.

[Snow_Fox]

On topic.
Why not take it to eleven? Surely you can build a portable blackpowder cannon with modern materials.

because the risk of being blown up by your own ordinance is amazingly high at that point. again you have the issue of just the bulk of your ammo and the risk of loose powder means even a cigarette might set you off.

Artillery were still using linstocks to fire cannons at Waterloo in 1815- a lit fuse- but musket technology had changed to flintlokcs more than a century earlier. The troops armed with these weapons, fusils, we used to guard cannons because unlike matchlocks, they didn't need a constant open flame but with a modern world the risks come back. A cannon's cartridge has leaked some grains onto a trolls jacket and then he lights up a stoogie- There's also cost. Each cannon shot takes a lot of powder. Currenlty black powder costs $15-20 a pound and finding a source for that much can be difficult