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Neophyte Runner  Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818  |
QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 24 2013, 09:48 AM)  How would you define helpless other then unconscious? Seem like a fringe occurance where that wouldn't be the case Hog-tied, and simultaneously stoned out of your mind? |
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Jan 24 2013, 03:04 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582 |
QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 24 2013, 03:48 PM) How would you define helpless other then unconscious? Seem like a fringe occurance where that wouldn't be the case QUOTE ('SR4A p. 294') the victim must either participate willingly, or be subdued into helplessness (restrained, paralyzed, knocked unconscious, mentally controlled, etc.). The conditions in parentheses either are options to induce sufficient helplessness or all those conditions have to be met simultaneously if you use the literal meaning of et cetera, making essence drain ridiculously difficult to achieve unless the victim is willing. I assume the former is the case, so handcuffs or a pinned opponent will be enough to fulfill the restrained condition.
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Jan 24 2013, 03:12 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
Simply handcuffing someone... Probably not enough, pinning makes sense though... Yet another reason to get electroshock orthoskin
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Jan 24 2013, 03:53 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Jan 24 2013, 10:12 AM) Simply handcuffing someone... Probably not enough, pinning makes sense though... Yet another reason to get electroshock orthoskin I prefer Laser Eyes. "Gaze into my eyes!" "Okay!" -k |
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Jan 24 2013, 04:19 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
i used eye based weaponry only once . .
meeting, intimidating, staring contest, asked GM how long it had been . . he said about 10 seconds . . and i told him that i wanted to use that time to have aimed my eyebased weaponry which he forgot about on the other guys eyes. even like that it did not do much damage. not even to a mundane guy . . i, personally, want cyber-implant weapons: Flamethrower Laser-Gun Sound-Weapon Microwave-Gun. Gyrojet-Gun. The Gauss-Rifle i realize might be a BIT big for this ^^ And the ability to chose the weapon model of the Gun you implant. Implant Version of the Ruger Thunderbolt! |
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Jan 24 2013, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 24 2013, 10:19 AM) i used eye based weaponry only once . . meeting, intimidating, staring contest, asked GM how long it had been . . he said about 10 seconds . . and i told him that i wanted to use that time to have aimed my eyebased weaponry which he forgot about on the other guys eyes. even like that it did not do much damage. not even to a mundane guy . . Didn't do much damage? Really? The Eye Tool Laser does 3P, -half AP. Shooting the enemy in his eyes should be a called shot, -4 dice for +4 DV. It'd also be a Surprise attack, and I personally would say it automatically succeed as surprise given the circumstance and the victim not being aware of the laser system. So even with a single point in Exotic Ranged Weapon: Eye Laser and a middling Agility, you should on average make the shot and deal 8P, which the enemy resists with Body + Half Armor, which should end up somewhere around 5P in the end, or half an average Physical Condition Monitor, plus the GM should probably rule it as blinding the victim temporarily as well. ~Umi |
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Jan 24 2013, 05:35 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
SR3 Rules were and are used by me and my group.
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Jan 24 2013, 05:38 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
Did you have a minigun installed in the eye? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 24 2013, 06:20 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
no, i would not have been able to hit with that.
but i would so totally do it anyway, if i could <.< |
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