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 Apr 24 2013, 02:05 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818  |
Yes and no. The cybersafety will still keep your gun (relatively) unhackable if you're grappled by someone running a Pocket Hacker in a skinlink-enabled device. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But that's such a narrow edge-case .... yeah.
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Apr 24 2013, 03:53 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Apr 24 2013, 09:05 AM)  Yes and no. The cybersafety will still keep your gun (relatively) unhackable if you're grappled by someone running a Pocket Hacker in a skinlink-enabled device. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But that's such a narrow edge-case .... yeah. If I'm that close then it doesn't matter. |
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Apr 24 2013, 04:10 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
The Cyber-safety will also prevent the weapon from being fired via the trigger, in the event the weapon is taken from you somehow.
Anyway, that particular system does still have some applications. Skinlinking is just a means of maintaining network security, including to your gun(s). |
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Apr 24 2013, 08:13 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
You can have your smartgun set to lock the trigger if the skinlink connection is broken without the proper command, thereby negating the issue of someone disarming you. Maybe it'd take a cyber-safety or a built-in weapon's comm/agent setup, but that would work fairly well.
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Apr 24 2013, 09:15 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
Yes. And that kind of synergy between systems is a great idea, IMO.
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Apr 24 2013, 10:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 17-March 10 Member No.: 18,317 |
It's not that you should be wary of any hacker with skinlink touching you. A microdrone with skinlink and a decent covert ops autosoft is far more dangerous.
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Apr 24 2013, 11:48 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
And those are going to happen .... how often, exactly?
... Yeah. Besides which, you know what? If you can get a microdrone to TOUCH me, without my knowledge? Fuck hacking my gun. Have it deliver a slap-patch of Slab, FFS, and just TAKE ME PRISONER. I mean, seriously; overthinking it, much? |
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Apr 25 2013, 01:15 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
Not a bad idea for a paranoia angle...
Like how some now believe that sugar is loaded with tiny RFID tags so the government can monitor everything you do... |
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Apr 25 2013, 05:36 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582 |
QUOTE (Modular Man @ Apr 25 2013, 12:22 AM) A microdrone with skinlink and a decent covert ops autosoft is far more dangerous. If the microdrone can touch and hack your commlink there are more interesting things to do than ejecting the weapon's magazine.
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Apr 25 2013, 07:02 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Apr 25 2013, 03:15 AM) Not a bad idea for a paranoia angle... Like how some now believe that sugar is loaded with tiny RFID tags so the government can monitor everything you do... that is pretty much canon . . the example from the book uses coffee, but i see no reason for it to not work with other stuff too . . |
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Apr 26 2013, 09:16 AM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,525 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
Wait, there are people who do not skinlink their datajacks? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Bye Thanee |
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Apr 26 2013, 05:56 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Thanee @ Apr 26 2013, 03:16 AM) Wait, there are people who do not skinlink their datajacks? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Bye Thanee I am sure there are... Of course, they are probably not Shadowrunners. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 26 2013, 07:23 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
why would you need to skinlink a datajack?
a datajack is already connected by wire to your wetare by default, as it is a direct neural interface anyway right? only need to melt out the wireless capabilities of that thing and you are good to go . . |
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Apr 26 2013, 08:16 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 26 2013, 01:23 PM) why would you need to skinlink a datajack? a datajack is already connected by wire to your wetare by default, as it is a direct neural interface anyway right? only need to melt out the wireless capabilities of that thing and you are good to go . . You skinlink it so that your non-wired, worn paraphenalia can interface with your datajack without having to transmit with a Signal of 0 or greater. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 26 2013, 08:17 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 26 2013, 02:23 PM) why would you need to skinlink a datajack? Okay, great. You have a datajack, and your brain can talk to it, no problem. You also have a skinlink-equipped commlink. ... How does the datajack communicate with the commlink? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... Let me answer that for you: either you run a physical cable between them ... or you plug a Wireless Adapter into the datajack (and don't use the skinlink capability of the commlink) ... or you skinlink the Datajack so that it can transmit ignals via skinlink. Same thing goes for that Smartgun, too. And your Chameleon Suit. Etc. EDIT: or, you know, how Tymeaus put it ... |
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Apr 27 2013, 01:59 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Just don't skinlink your underwear.
That never works out. -k |
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Apr 27 2013, 02:24 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
ALL internal Hardware is hardwired anyway. Burn out all Wireless in there. Yes, on the internal Comlink too.
And only connect to an external, disposable comlink via cable if you really really need wireless for something. As for Smartlink: Yes, run a cable to the Datajack. It's how Bull did it when he was young some 20 Years ago. Or you use the fragging Induction-Pad you get if you did not go the cheap-skate eye-ware route! Or was that done away with completely? |
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Apr 27 2013, 03:22 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582 |
I think the pads were "re"introduced via the 2050 book.
While wiring everything works, why not use skinlink? |
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Apr 27 2013, 03:36 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
why pay for something, especially in essence, if you can have, in essence, the same thing for free by simply declaring it when buying your ware in the first place?
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Apr 27 2013, 03:41 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 27 2013, 11:36 AM) why pay for something, especially in essence, if you can have, in essence, the same thing for free by simply declaring it when buying your ware in the first place? Skinlink doesn't cost essence. It costs 50¥ per device - so for gun-and-link, 100¥. It would cost more than 100¥ to run a wire from your eye to your hand, then add an induction pad to both your hand and the gun. It would also cost more than 100¥ to install a datajack, and run a wire from it to your gun. ... Hell. You don't even need the implant. Skinlink a pair of glasses, or even a pair of contact lenses, that have the Smartlink hardware installed. Skinlink the smartgun. Poof. |
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Apr 27 2013, 04:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 17-March 10 Member No.: 18,317 |
QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Apr 25 2013, 06:36 AM) If the microdrone can touch and hack your commlink there are more interesting things to do than ejecting the weapon's magazine. Well, that is if the user using the skinlink also was smart enough to slave the gun to the commlink regardless of non-wireless transmission. Some people just don't do that because of subskription limits. Also, I meant that as a general piece of advice, not limited to ejecting one's magazine, because you are right: Why stop there? And, well, yes, skinlink is still far more secure than wireless traffic. |
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Apr 27 2013, 04:39 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Apr 27 2013, 09:22 AM) I think the pads were "re"introduced via the 2050 book. While wiring everything works, why not use skinlink? Because it is much harder to splice into a wire running under your skin than find a way into a skinlink. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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