 On the nature of magic, A thesis |
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 Apr 27 2004, 12:50 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818  |
His statement is canonical. It may not be rules, but it is still supported by SR3.
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Apr 27 2004, 12:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 309 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,548 |
O...kay. Well, the simple fact of the matter is that the RULES say that both mages and shamen use formulas--FORMULAS--they just take different forms. One can be "scientific" and one can be "artistic" but the difference is PURELY AESTHETIC.
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Apr 27 2004, 12:55 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
Plus one man's art is another man's science, and vice versa. When it comes down to it, shamans are just self-deluded religious freaks. :P
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Apr 27 2004, 12:57 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
How can you be so blind to the basic laws of the universe?
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Apr 27 2004, 12:58 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Tsk. Science is just another form of Religion, one based on the gods of Logic and Method rather than Good and Evil, Power and Chaos. We're all self-deluded religious freaks.
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Apr 27 2004, 01:00 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
It's kinda disturbing how quickly this devolved into a loony IC commentary.
I feel like I'm on the loony Shadowland SIG's. |
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Apr 27 2004, 01:04 AM
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You realize you're talking about yourself, right? Mr. Waves-a-dead-chicken-over-his-head-cause-he-thinks-that's-how-he-appeases-his-god-into-casting-a-spell-for-him. |
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Apr 27 2004, 01:04 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 5-June 03 Member No.: 4,689 |
Why do formulas necessarily need to be static? They could be algorithms.
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Apr 27 2004, 01:18 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That's what we're here for. ~J |
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Apr 27 2004, 01:22 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
Dead chickens are for the animal shamans. Dragonslayer has much better imagrey. Daggers and burning and such.
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Apr 27 2004, 01:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 309 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,548 |
You think that's bad? I'm THIS close to busting out my RL metaphysical beliefs...then, politics! |
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Apr 27 2004, 01:29 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
That would be singularly unwise.
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Apr 27 2004, 01:36 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Vodoun!
~J |
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Apr 27 2004, 07:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 13-August 02 From: Austin, Republic of Texas (not CAS) Member No.: 3,094 |
yeah, don't go there... we had a thread shut down for that only a little while ago...
-Mike R. :cyber: |
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Apr 29 2004, 08:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 24-November 02 Member No.: 3,638 |
IJWTS that "The Odd Coven" made me laugh. That is all.
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Apr 29 2004, 11:54 PM
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Magic of either type is still magic and what is Magick? The world may never know but the truth is what you need it to be... by that I meen that the truth is what the individual believes the truth to be. The wisdom found in a book or in the vision quest is still wisdom. If a mage throws a fireball and a shaman throws a fireball how are they different? does one burn any brighter or better? (Not if they are the same force) Is the wisdom imparted by Wolf any different then the wisdom imparted by an ancient text on Native Shamanism? Perhaps not... perhaps the real truth is that magick is the life energy of the world influenced by the tools of the Magick-user be he a Hermetic, Shaman, Psychic, Voudoun or Religious beleiver.
Magick is a tool and in Tools I prefer "Craftsman" guarnteed for LIFE. 8) |
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Apr 30 2004, 12:10 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 5-June 03 Member No.: 4,689 |
Is magic a tool? or is it a way of life? ;)
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