 Monofilament Whip vs. Hardened Armor |
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 Jul 7 2013, 04:54 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749  |
I just need to know if there is some ruling or if the whip works acc. to RAW?
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Jul 7 2013, 05:43 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
Why wouldn't it? AP modifiers are included in the description of hardened armor.
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Jul 7 2013, 05:47 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 |
Indeed, so long as you are not facing something with a 12 or higher Hardened Armor (whip having 8DV plus -4AP in SR4, not seen SR5 version) you should be able to affect it.
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Jul 7 2013, 06:09 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538 |
It shouldn't matter even if it is 12 or higher. The test to see whether you can punch through hardened armour includes your net hits on the attack test. So if they had 14 points of hardened armour, you would need 3+ net hits to punch through with the whip.
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Jul 8 2013, 01:09 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
I just thought there could be a special ruling e.g. like for dartguns agains hardened armor, or whips against barriers. Thanks for the quick answers.
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Jul 8 2013, 11:11 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,431 Joined: 3-December 03 Member No.: 5,872 |
In previous editions there used to be a special rule for hardened armor and the monofillament whip. I wish they had kept it.
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Jul 9 2013, 05:36 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
Monofilament whips in SR3 halved impact armor, but barriers counted as double. They are even worse against barriers in SR4, doing only a base DV of 1 (and weapons used against barriers ignore their AP rating).*
*Table on pg. 158 of SR4; not sure what page it would be in SR4A. |
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Jul 9 2013, 05:41 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 5-February 10 Member No.: 18,115 |
QUOTE (Glyph @ Jul 8 2013, 11:36 PM)  *Table on pg. 158 of SR4; not sure what page it would be in SR4A. Page 166. ~Umi |
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Jul 9 2013, 06:59 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538 |
Yeah and projectiles and bullets suck too. But that has no bearing on how effective the monowhip is against hardened armour.
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Jul 9 2013, 08:21 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 5-February 10 Member No.: 18,115 |
It's just as effective as any other weapon, modifies it in the exact same way.
You're probably better off with SnS rounds, though. ~Umi |
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