 SR5 Errata Side Chatter, Posts ejected from the Errata thread. |
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 Jul 11 2013, 10:53 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 28-March 13 Member No.: 85,198  |
QUOTE (Brutus PI @ Jul 11 2013, 11:11 AM)  Not actual rule/spelling error but the last two huge horizontal scenery images of the PDF is really messing up some PDF readers like Preview in OS X. This makes all other pages to scale down to really tiny size. I can naturally zoom in but that is just dump. Documents like these really should pick a page size and stick to it. Putting different sized pages is really bad layout decision unless you want to piss off your reader. Some PDF-readers will get around this but not all. I was able to remove the last pages with PDF editor program which is really the only way to fix the PDF. Please fix the layout issue. Remove the last pages (and publish them separately) or at least rotate them and choose the same width as the other pages. ...and bookmarks! AFAIK, modern PDF editors/publishing tools can automate Bookmark generation. What the hell Catalyst?! IMHO the *best* feature of pdfs, allowing the reader to quickly browse the document *without* having to manually look things up in the TOC. |
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Jul 11 2013, 01:15 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (Critias @ Jul 11 2013, 06:02 AM) As mentioned in the other thread, our best guess is this is some sort of formatting error, an earlier version being released on accident, etc, etc. I've emailed and PM'ed folks about the problems with this DTRPG pdf, to let 'em know, and I'm sure once folks wake up some kind of ball will start rollin'. I let 'em know about the images in the back and the bookmarks thing. Our layout guy loves doing layout too much, I can't imagine a non-bookmarked copy being our "final," y'know? Several of the reviewers commented about how nice the bookmarks were on their pdf copies, so this just has to be some kind of screw-up. It'll get fixed. Wait, they seriously released the PDF without bookmarks. Jesus, man, no offense to the authors, but can anyone else at Catlyst find their ass with both hands, a map, a spotter, and the National Guard on standby? |
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Jul 11 2013, 01:19 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,420 Joined: 30-October 03 Member No.: 5,776 |
QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jul 11 2013, 08:15 AM) Wait, they seriously released the PDF without bookmarks. Jesus, man, no offense to the authors, but can anyone else at Catlyst find their ass with both hands, a map, a spotter, and the National Guard on standby? All signs point to this being the fault of Drivethru, not Catalyst. The official release is supposedly going to be at noon PST and will include info on the hard copy pre-orders. It seems like Drivethru released an earlier copy that was not meant for widespread release. |
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Jul 11 2013, 01:20 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Well, you saw the previews right?
Did the previews have bookmarks? Also, you can see why there are no bookmarks. QUOTE Layoutprogramm ist Adobe CS 6, Mac und der Eintrag "PDF mit Tags" steht auf NEIN Quote from one of the germans who bought it already . . Translation: Layouttool is Adobe CS6, Mac and the Entry "PDF with Tags" is set to NO |
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Jul 11 2013, 01:27 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 11 2013, 08:20 AM) Well, you saw the previews right? Did the previews have bookmarks? Also, you can see why there are no bookmarks. Quote from one of the germans who bought it already . . Translation: Layouttool is Adobe CS6, Mac and the Entry "PDF with Tags" is set to NO (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) |
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Jul 11 2013, 01:35 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
i kinda don't believe that it's the fault of drive through RPG.
they don't decide which version to release do they? they release what they get from CGL. so if this is the wrong version, somebody gave them that. |
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Jul 11 2013, 01:49 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Brutus PI @ Jul 11 2013, 04:11 AM) This makes all other pages to scale down to really tiny size. I can naturally zoom in but that is just dump. That's not just OSX. I had that problem with a D&D module (the playmat map at the end of the book was 22" wide...compared to the standard page's 8.5" ...I think I'm just going to report that as a bug to adobe... |
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Jul 11 2013, 02:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 21-July 07 Member No.: 12,332 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 11 2013, 06:49 AM) That's not just OSX. I had that problem with a D&D module (the playmat map at the end of the book was 22" wide...compared to the standard page's 8.5" ...I think I'm just going to report that as a bug to adobe... I had the same issue with the SR5 pdf using pdf xchange viewer. The weird formatting caused other problems too, like left and right arrows to navigate pages stopped working. Instead it shifted the page left and right incrementally. -Temperance |
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Jul 11 2013, 02:34 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Temperance @ Jul 11 2013, 09:32 AM) I had the same issue with the SR5 pdf using pdf xchange viewer. The weird formatting caused other problems too, like left and right arrows to navigate pages stopped working. Instead it shifted the page left and right incrementally. Yup. |
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Jul 11 2013, 02:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526 |
Weird. It works great in Goodreader for iOS. Then again, Goodreader is the Honey Badger of PDF viewers.
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Jul 11 2013, 03:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 21-July 07 Member No.: 12,332 |
QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 11 2013, 06:35 AM) Weird. It works great in Goodreader for iOS. Then again, Goodreader is the Honey Badger of PDF viewers. So much this. The only issue I've had with Goodreader was an odd work related one. The pdf works fine on a desktop or laptop. Once it gets into Goodreader, the white background turns blue, the page borders (of various colors) turn bright red, and the text remains black. It makes it a bit hard to read. :/ None of my other viewers will even open it. I just stopped reading that pdf on my ipad at work. <shrug> Oh, and it occasionally tells me a random pdf is bad, even though it's read that same pdf without error a bajillion times before. (Bajillion is my technical term for large numbers without count. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) ) -Temperance |
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Jul 11 2013, 03:17 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Temperance @ Jul 11 2013, 10:15 AM) (Bajillion is my technical term for large numbers without count. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) ) It is for most people. Like 40 was for the ancient Israelites. |
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Jul 11 2013, 03:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 21-July 07 Member No.: 12,332 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 11 2013, 07:17 AM) It is for most people. Like 40 was for the ancient Israelites. Oh man, thinking in cubits makes my head hurt. I bet people feel the same about feet, yards, and miles (US) have the same issue when they are used to working in metric. -Temperance |
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Jul 11 2013, 04:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 28-March 13 Member No.: 85,198 |
QUOTE (Slacker @ Jul 11 2013, 03:19 PM) All signs point to this being the fault of Drivethru, not Catalyst. The official release is supposedly going to be at noon PST and will include info on the hard copy pre-orders. It seems like Drivethru released an earlier copy that was not meant for widespread release. I've just checked, hoping for an update, and noticed that DriveThrough pulled the SR5 Corebook from their shop, indicating a screwup of some sort on their part. Access to my copy remains, but no-update yet. Will post when they fix this. |
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Jul 11 2013, 04:22 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jul 11 2013, 11:12 AM) Typo : Page 54 "Emergeed individuals" Emergeed, gersberms! |
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Jul 11 2013, 04:39 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jul 11 2013, 11:33 AM) Are we agreed that this was not intended to be in print? I believe so. |
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Jul 11 2013, 04:58 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Depends on who's story you buy.
According to somebody on the official german shadowrun board, they had a talk with one reviewer who had asked JMH about this who, according to this chain of other people, said that the 50% more on everything was correct. |
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Jul 11 2013, 05:29 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 11 2013, 11:58 AM) Depends on who's story you buy. According to somebody on the official german shadowrun board, they had a talk with one reviewer who had asked JMH about this who, according to this chain of other people, said that the 50% more on everything was correct. *Faceclaw* |
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Jul 11 2013, 06:06 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 11 2013, 01:04 PM) This thread. I'm sure Patrick Goodman is keeping a more complete list, but that won't be publicly available until if and when CGL decides to publish it. FTFY (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Jul 11 2013, 06:55 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 11 2013, 04:20 PM) Well, you saw the previews right? Did the previews have bookmarks? Also, you can see why there are no bookmarks. But as Critias said some previews even praised the good bookmarks, so if all of them wheren't being sarcastic there does exist a version with bookmarks. |
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Jul 11 2013, 07:11 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,210 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Texas Member No.: 7,685 |
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Jul 11 2013, 07:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
If you got the version posted early, it may not have bookmarks. The one I just re-downloaded from DTRPG does have bookmarks.
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Jul 11 2013, 08:11 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,210 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Texas Member No.: 7,685 |
QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 11 2013, 02:20 PM) Did you leave of part of the quote here, because that atleast doesn't say what you claim it does. I must need glasses. Thanks for pointing that out. Withdrawn. |
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Jul 11 2013, 09:02 PM
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Target Group: New Member Probation Posts: 9 Joined: 10-June 10 Member No.: 18,686 |
I suspect I already know the answer, but is the option to do char-gen "out of order" like in 4th still an official rule? I don't see anything concrete one way or the other.
In other words, can you buy and install essence affecting gear before selecting magical affinity in order to bypass the loss of current magic attribute? Since the magical traits are no longer qualities but a specific part of char gen, I suspect the answer is no. |
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Jul 11 2013, 09:03 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (fenrishero @ Jul 11 2013, 04:02 PM) I suspect I already know the answer, but is the option to do char-gen "out of order" like in 4th still an official rule? I don't see anything concrete one way or the other. In other words, can you buy and install essence affecting gear before selecting magical affinity in order to bypass the loss of current magic attribute? Since the magical traits are no longer qualities but a specific part of char gen, I suspect the answer is no. Answer is, as far as I'm aware, no. As a GM, the answer at my table would be 'HELL NO', with a side of 'please stop trying to abuse the character creation rules'. |
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