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> Meat in the 6th world, We might not need to eat soy after all!
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post Dec 9 2013, 05:15 AM
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Scientist creates synthetic hamburger out of stem cells

So yeah, my hope for our future is bright!
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post Dec 9 2013, 05:34 AM
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For the rich, at least.

$330,000 per patty (bun and sauce not included). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

(Also, not a new news story, though I don't think it made it to this forum yet).
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post Dec 9 2013, 11:56 AM
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They have 60 years to refine the process and make it affordable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Dec 9 2013, 11:58 AM
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Or just go back to Elf, the other white meat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Tastes like chicken and if slow roasted the meat just sliiiiiides off the bones.

What?

Finally found a good use for an IE. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)



Joking aside, the concept of building food like this is an interesting step and hopefully they continue with the research.
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post Dec 9 2013, 04:29 PM
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Weren't the Japanese making meat out of human waste a while back? I think soy is the least of our worries.
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post Dec 9 2013, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (yesferatu @ Dec 9 2013, 09:29 AM) *
Weren't the Japanese making meat out of human waste a while back? I think soy is the least of our worries.


Indeed they were. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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post Dec 9 2013, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (yesferatu @ Dec 9 2013, 11:29 AM) *
Weren't the Japanese making meat out of human waste a while back? I think soy is the least of our worries.

Now I know why the Japanese are so screwed up. They have people thinking of ways to have people eat crap and LIKE it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead.gif)
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post Dec 9 2013, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Dec 9 2013, 10:47 AM) *
Now I know why the Japanese are so screwed up. They have people thinking of ways to have people eat crap and LIKE it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead.gif)

Pretty sure we've been doing it in the States since at least 1955...
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post Dec 10 2013, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Dec 9 2013, 11:47 AM) *
Now I know why the Japanese are so screwed up. They have people thinking of ways to have people eat crap and LIKE it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead.gif)

I can't see the difference between eatting food culled from bacteria that subsist on drek, and eatting food culled from plants (or animals that eat those plants) that subsist on drek. It's kind of like people who won't eat meat, but are okay eatting fish.

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post Dec 10 2013, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (Neko Asakami @ Dec 9 2013, 02:01 PM) *
Pretty sure we've been doing it in the States since at least 1955...

There's a huge fraking difference in fake meat, and real feces! Sure the you may think that McD's is serving crap, but it is not feces.

@Umidori: those bacteria may subsist on crap, but they are not crap.
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post Dec 10 2013, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Dec 10 2013, 09:29 AM) *
@Umidori: those bacteria may subsist on crap, but they are not crap.

...that was my point. The linked article talks about growing bacteria on drek, and then using that bacteria to make "meat". It's not any different than fertilizing crops and then making bread.

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post Dec 11 2013, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (Umidori @ Dec 11 2013, 02:03 AM) *
...that was my point. The linked article talks about growing bacteria on drek, and then using that bacteria to make "meat". It's not any different than fertilizing crops and then making bread.

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I agree...

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post Dec 11 2013, 01:08 AM
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B-b-b-but I had the Soylent Brown posters all made up.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

But yeah, they are just extracting bacteria (and cooking it first) so can't say it is too odd.

If anything it will be one more thing added for recycling on long term space missions.
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post Dec 23 2013, 03:09 AM
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I said this about food long ago, the whole soy/krill thing is standard dystopian future clap trap but if you consider VITAS wiped out a huge amoung ot the population AND the UCAS/CAS are pretty much still advanced places there would not be a great shortage of food.
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post Dec 23 2013, 03:25 AM
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It would depend: how much of the population can be devoted to growing rice, wheat, corn, and beef?
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post Dec 23 2013, 03:50 AM
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how much of the population does it now? in asia and Africa it would be bad but not here, we'd pretty much be were where we are as a nation now
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post Dec 23 2013, 04:16 AM
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One thing I think a lot of people forget about the Sixth World is that Mother Nature is pissed. Magic has made wilderness regions truly dangerous, and that presumably spills over into rural farming areas as well.

Imagine living out in the boonies and having to worry about not just your old problems of wolves or coyotes, but nasty paracritters of all sorts, as well as rogue malevolent spirits, eco-terrorists, radical shamans, and worse. Imagine trying to cope with awakened weeds that grow like wildfire, strangling out anything and everything else. Imagine having to constantly be on watch for mana storms, paranatural disasters, ley line shifts, and other passive environmental theats. Imagine having to cope with wildly changing ecologies and food webs that have been disrupted by the reintroduction of magic.

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post Dec 29 2013, 03:07 PM
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that's in Australia and parts of northern france but not in the old US and southern canada
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post Dec 29 2013, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Dec 29 2013, 10:07 AM) *
that's in Australia and parts of northern france but not in the old US and southern canada


Yeah, worst you'll get in New England is skunk. Below that feral dogs, feral cats, deer, woodchucks, and squirrels.
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post Dec 29 2013, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Dec 29 2013, 08:20 AM) *
Yeah, worst you'll get in New England is skunk. Below that feral dogs, feral cats, deer, woodchucks, and squirrels.


Got to watch out for those Woodchucks, though. They are vicious. Always keep an eye on them, and NEVER let them get behind you.
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post Dec 29 2013, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Dec 29 2013, 11:04 AM) *
Got to watch out for those Woodchucks, though. They are vicious. Always keep an eye on them, and NEVER let them get behind you.


Or carry a medium sized dog on you at all times.
(The score, here, is Dogs: 4 Woodcucks: 0)
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post Dec 30 2013, 12:12 AM
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Woodcucks never score
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post Dec 30 2013, 12:39 AM
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The woodchucks are listening...
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post Dec 30 2013, 02:33 AM
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Don't forget about the awakened woodchuck, nicknamed "copperchucks" due to it's preference for seeking out and chewing on old style copper piping and wiring in human habitats, but also has a taste for gold,silver and platinum so some prospectors note the presence of a copperchuck colony as a good sign of possible veins for mining.

Thankfully they are not aggressive unless cornered, though between hardened teeth and claws along with an acidic spittle, they can rip into armor/vehicles if pressed. Electric motors are a special treat for them with their internal coils and more than one rigger in the wild has found a chunk of their engine removed if unwittingly left near a burrow unattended.

If you come across one and need to get by peacefully, throwing out a small roll of wiring is usually enough to distract them, allowing one to go around without hassle.

Unfortunately they are not very edible, the high metal content leaving them with a bitter taste most will find offputting though not toxic if one is hard pressed and they properly extract the acidic glands which can ruin the meat if leaked.
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post Dec 30 2013, 06:24 AM
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Even without that, you've got things like Soylent, which is already much cheaper, and handles everything. In fact, they mention making it available through taps. So even if you're drinking soy, you've got a fair chance of being healthy and energetic. I don't think, in Shadowrun, food should be a problem, really. Any decent soup kitchen should be able to feed everyone without any real problem. And if you have the filter system that's been shown around these days, you can draw water from nearly anything and not worry about pollutants.

I try to keep modern technology and advancements in mind when I run Shadowrun - so it isn't as dystopic as 'canon' may make it seem to be.
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