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[Bigity]

Because who needs rules when they're NPC?


A Shadowtalker. Angry Hobgoblin rigger/decker who hates technomancers and is shunned by all the other super progressive Jackpointers because hating authors' pets is bad (in a community that harbours two mass muderers, two serial rapists and is generally made up of cold blooded killers).

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[Starglyte]

Because who needs rules when they're NPC?


A Shadowtalker. Angry Hobgoblin rigger/decker who hates technomancers and is shunned by all the other super progressive Jackpointers because hating authors' pets is bad (in a community that harbours two mass muderers, two serial rapists and is generally made up of cold blooded killers).

I know Haze is one of the serial rapists, but who is the other one?

[hermit]

I know Haze is one of the serial rapists, but who is the other one?

Kane. For reference: the mass murderers are Kane and Puck.

[Sendaz]

Names with just 4 letters = Evil (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)


Names with 6 letters on the other hand = Best (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beret.gif)

Does this mean Bull may be evil?

Yes, but at his age its a much slower evil. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

*sound of a Panther Cannon round hitting nearby*

Thankfully less accurate too... but not going to stick around for him to walk his shots...

*scurries off*

[hermit]

Now that you say it ...

[Gyrox10]

The virus plotline looked like a solution to this insanity, since it would have curb-stomped the widespread usage of nanobots. Instead, they are seemingly turned up to 11, and I doubt too much thought went into the consequences of an incurable, highly contagious disease capable of self-replication without a host. To say nothing of what would happen if the self-replication gets used for more than just spreading the disease...

Let's keep this simple: VITAS x2-3, minimum.

I hope you didn't like living in the sixth world.

On a sidenote, I'm kind of hoping this is setting up a few new AIs to pop back and slap the nanites down. To, of course, later reveal this whole thing was their idea.

[hermit]

Actually, the symptoms are treatable and manageable with a few good rolls. There're worse diseases in sR4 (HMHVV-Krieger, anyone?). And it was strongly hinted there might be a cure later on. It might make nanotech and AI a lot more suspect and change perception away from the naive-anoying transhumanist tone of SR4, which, in my book, actualy is a good thing.

[Gyrox10]

On a different note, does Stolen Souls mention anything about the NEMA Quarantine zone in Boston?

My primary character has like... 14 active contacts in Boston plus his son.

Do I need to break my merc contract and go on a rampage to extract people I like from beantown?

[hermit]

On a different note, does Stolen Souls mention anything about the NEMA Quarantine zone in Boston?

There are several hints that the Sybil Virus is indeed the reason the NEMA was set up. In-game, though, Stolen Souls is set before NEMA is set up, before the dragon bursts out of the NeoNET HQ and before the rainbow rain.

You will in all likelyhood need to, but good luck convincing your GM this is not metagaming. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Gyrox10]

There are several hints that the Sybil Virus is indeed the reason the NEMA was set up. In-game, though, Stolen Souls is set before NEMA is set up, before the dragon bursts out of the NeoNET HQ and before the rainbow rain.

You will in all likelyhood need to, but good luck convincing your GM this is not metagaming. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So, no details as to where the QZ actually lay?

Grrr. I now have a burning need to know.

Is there any information on this other than @jackpoint2075's twitter stream?

[hermit]

There will be a dedicated sourcebook, 'Lockdown', which is apparently in layout and is already referred to as upcoming release in Stolen Souls.

[Gyrox10]

There will be a dedicated sourcebook, 'Lockdown', which is apparently in layout and is already referred to as upcoming release in Stolen Souls.

[Fractal profanity]

Well then. Schrodinger's police state it is...

Thanks for the heads up, though. I'd have been pissed if I picked up SS only to find out the details I most care about aren't covered at all.

[hermit]

Well, it has a lot on the disease which matches the descriptions on Twitter. Not a total no-show, but it really is not the NEMA sourcebook. However, if that is really Sybil ... your character might consider mercy killing them. If they haven't been turned already (though in that case, extreme prejudice, anyway).

That, or REALLY stock up money for expensive treatment (not cure, but the disease is somewhat manageable as of Stolen Souls).

[Gyrox10]

Fair.

As far as my character is concerned there are only really two details: Is Dwarftown (The badass underground suburb the dwarves built) locked down? If so, who is in the way?

As you can tell his survival instincts aren't always the greatest.

[hermit]

No news on the Underground, I think, but I'll check. As for who is in the way: UCAS army, NeoNET armed forces, arguably Celedyr.

[Sengir]

Actually, the symptoms are treatable and manageable with a few good rolls. There're worse diseases in sR4 (HMHVV-Krieger, anyone?). And it was strongly hinted there might be a cure later on.

Can a few viral particles of Krieger replicate, build a sensor array to scan for people trying to disinfect the place and release a bunch of Cutters when a threat does show up?

It might make nanotech and AI a lot more suspect and change perception away from the naive-anoying transhumanist tone of SR4, which, in my book, actualy is a good thing.

That was the idea. Self-replicating nanites are exactly the opposite direction

[binarywraith]

Let's keep this simple: VITAS x2-3, minimum.

I hope you didn't like living in the sixth world.

On a sidenote, I'm kind of hoping this is setting up a few new AIs to pop back and slap the nanites down. To, of course, later reveal this whole thing was their idea.

So 50-75% of the population, clustered in the most technologically advanced and dense parts of the world? Seems like a good day for the NaN.

[hermit]

Can a few viral particles of Krieger replicate, build a sensor array to scan for people trying to disinfect the place and release a bunch of Cutters when a threat does show up?

No, but they have (or had in SR4) aerosol infection, touch infection and fluid contact infection. Plus, HMHVV has the Ghoul and it's astral sight to do the scanning for it.

That was the idea. Self-replicating nanites are exactly the opposite direction

Sure, that's a brainfart.Though Grey Goo isn't exactly google-style endearing. Unless you're a member of the Pirate Party.

[Sengir]

No, but they have (or had in SR4) aerosol infection, touch infection and fluid contact infection. Plus, HMHVV has the Ghoul and it's astral sight to do the scanning for it.

a) You're still clinging to what the author has admitted was a simple mix-up
b) Once the Ghoul is dead, HMHVV seizes to be a problem unless you're planning to bathe in his blood. Shoot a guy with CFD and sterilize the place, the few remaining nanites can replicate, build other kinds of nanites...

Self-replication is a can of worms of astronomic proportions, no way around it

[hermit]

a) You're still clinging to what the author has admitted was a simple mix-up

If it was errata'd, you'd have a point.

b) Once the Ghoul is dead, HMHVV seizes to be a problem unless you're planning to bathe in his blood. Shoot a guy with CFD and sterilize the place, the few remaining nanites can replicate, build other kinds of nanites...

It appeared to me they can only replicate inside a host. Outside they sit and wait, and degenerate. Though it'S not written very conclusively in the rules. I have to go by the fluff here. Also, latent carrier anyone?

But hey, we both know you are extremely fond of playable infected and I am very much not, so maybe we should just drop this. My point was: CFD is not much worse than most statted diseases in SR. I mean, just check out the awakened leprosy that infects your printed books.

[Jaid]

alternately, since everything is wireless in SR5, (and nanites that need to communicate with each other kinda do need to be wireless, so for once it actually kinda makes sense - at very low range, mind you, as opposed to the "accessible from anywhere in the matrix" kind of wireless), the disease should be very easy to treat. considering you have an absolutely tiny device that likely won't hold up well to electrical surges and has an antenna that can receive EMF signals...

alternately, you could try a homegrown solution of just tazing people. obviously not without it's drawbacks, but then again, getting tazed does sound less sucky than having your mind rewritten by e-ghosts.

[binarywraith]

a) You're still clinging to what the author has admitted was a simple mix-up
b) Once the Ghoul is dead, HMHVV seizes to be a problem unless you're planning to bathe in his blood. Shoot a guy with CFD and sterilize the place, the few remaining nanites can replicate, build other kinds of nanites...

Self-replication is a can of worms of astronomic proportions, no way around it

Yup. There's a reason the Grey Goo and Von Neumann machines are basic things to be avoided in any science fiction touching on nanotech.

[DeathStrobe]

alternately, since everything is wireless in SR5, (and nanites that need to communicate with each other kinda do need to be wireless, so for once it actually kinda makes sense - at very low range, mind you, as opposed to the "accessible from anywhere in the matrix" kind of wireless), the disease should be very easy to treat. considering you have an absolutely tiny device that likely won't hold up well to electrical surges and has an antenna that can receive EMF signals...

alternately, you could try a homegrown solution of just tazing people. obviously not without it's drawbacks, but then again, getting tazed does sound less sucky than having your mind rewritten by e-ghosts.

Stolen Souls actually touches on this. Butch, the doc who conducted a lot of tests on CFD victims, tazed himself constantly to attempted to make sure he was nanotech free. However, some of the jackpointers point out his methods were unusually cruel and out of character, so may imply he is actually one of the infected now too. Which would make sense, since it'd be very difficult to do research on this stuff without falling victim to it.

[Jaid]

ah, so these are apparently magical nanobots that somehow can handle electrical charges that are strong enough to shut down a car after a few uses.

[DeathStrobe]

ah, so these are apparently magical nanobots that somehow can handle electrical charges that are strong enough to shut down a car after a few uses.

Did the rules for nanotech in 4th ed kill nanohives after being tasered? Or is it just now that this breaks your suspension of disbelief?