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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 ![]() |
I run SR3 but in general, how would you run this?
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 ![]() |
Basically SR says, that you cannot buff the same DP with the same source. In these cases, only the highest factor applies. Means: weapon focus force 6 and one force 4, means that you only get 6 dice.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 ![]() |
Is that an SR4 ruling? And I presume the extra weapon would (SR3)stack/ (SR4) split dice pool?
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
You get the bonus dice only to attacks made with that weapon specifically, if i remember correctly.
So if you are not actually attacking with both at the same time, you get only 4 or 6 dice depending on which weapon you use. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 ![]() |
Rightyho.
Thinking of the Native Amerindian long knife and tomahawk style for a NPC. So good to check.. |
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Do remember that usually the secondary weapon has to be one size category smaller than the main weapon.
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 ![]() |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 ![]() |
Only checked in Arsenal (SR4a), but the section for Two Weapon Melee Combat (page 163) simply limits this to weapons of Reach 0 or 1, and says nothing about the off-hand weapon having to be smaller. And on the subject of the OP, the same page in Arsenal says to split the DP before adding modifiers, and the section on Weapon Foci (SR4a, page 199) does say their bonus is a modifier.
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
SR3 had a Table for this somewhere actually.
Which weapon can be used with what as primary/secondary. @KCKitsune: Oi, i like to play Trolls, i should be able to wield 2 claymores as one handed Weapons if i so chose <.< But yes, 2 small sized weapons should work i think. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 26-November 13 Member No.: 177,727 ![]() |
then there's the figure of one gun one sword, switching the favored weapon to your dominant hand in case of odd dice pools. i guess a troll could duel wield shotguns if he isn't moving, right?
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Guns are a different Matter altogether.
In SR3, a Troll can more or less comfortably dual wield ANY gun. Yes, this includes the Minigun and the Panther Assault Cannon. Shadowrun Third Edition Canon Companion Page 94 and onwards are interesting here. And yes, a Troll can wield 2x Claymore as well. QUOTE Trolls can wield any of the 2-handed weapons with one hand, and add only a +1 TN and -1 to power The lesser races add a +2TN and -2 Power QUOTE Large Firearms (anything rifle sized and up) are typically used with 2 hands. A Character wielding a large firearm with only 1 hand will suffer a +2 TN modifier. Trolls are not subject to this modifier. Due to how the Recoil works, yes, 2xPAC or 2x Barret Sniper Rifle is VERY easy for a Troll to do. Technically, anybody can do it, but the loss in power and the added difficulty/TN make it unviable pretty fast. Yes, Trolls WERE the Combat-Master-Race for anything Close-Combat related and if you wanted to simply do unholy ammounts of damage down range with BIG GUNS in SR3. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 ![]() |
How would this work with 3rd ed Ambidextrous rules?
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
If you have Ambidexterity 6 you actually don't need the off hand skill anymore.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 ![]() |
Yes but what happens with the 'off hand' weapon focus bonus dice? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/question.gif)
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
You only get the bonus dice from one focus it seems.
So with 2 Knives it would be: Skill+Force+off hand skill/2, if i understood this correctly. which is, actually, in accordance with the general rule that any single test can only ever benefit from one single focus, if i remember that bit of magic correctly too. |
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