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post Jul 12 2014, 07:23 PM
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Well, that was startling. Just got an email from DriveThruRPG stating that a new version of the SR5 Core PDF has been updated! Go grab a fresh copy if you've paid for it, and let's hope this means some of the errata are in place and maybe a spellcheck got run. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 12 2014, 08:37 PM
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Yeah, I just finished downloading it. Looking through it now.
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post Jul 12 2014, 11:46 PM
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http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/2014/07/s...ar-anniversary/

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And second, a fully corrected PDF—folding in all official errata-to-date—for Shadowrun, Fifth Edition has just been released. (For those who already purchased that item, you should be receiving a notification via email to download that new PDF.)
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post Jul 13 2014, 12:39 AM
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Since the only Official Errata to date is the anemic 4 page document that was put out months ago, I would not really hold my breath too much, but we will see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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post Jul 13 2014, 05:18 AM
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Hey, the street samurai isn't 200,000+ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) over any longer, and the combat mage has an Edge of 7 like he's supposed to. All the typos have been fixed, and they've really cleaned up the vague or inconsistent wording on some of the rules. Combat spells do more damage but spirits are not as overpowered. Some augmentations are cheaper, and the rules for wireless and bricking have been drastically revised - they make a lot more sense now. Great job, Catalyst!








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post Jul 13 2014, 05:28 AM
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QUOTE (Glyph @ Jul 13 2014, 09:18 AM) *
Hey, the street samurai isn't 200,000+ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) over any longer, and the combat mage has an Edge of 7 like he's supposed to. All the typos have been fixed, and they've really cleaned up the vague or inconsistent wording on some of the rules. Combat spells do more damage but spirits are not as overpowered. Some augmentations are cheaper, and the rules for wireless and bricking have been drastically revised - they make a lot more sense now. Great job, Catalyst!








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Something in your post makes me doubt its truthfulness. Hmmmmmmmmm.
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post Jul 13 2014, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (Glyph @ Jul 13 2014, 06:18 AM) *
Hey, the street samurai isn't 200,000+ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) over any longer, and the combat mage has an Edge of 7 like he's supposed to. All the typos have been fixed, and they've really cleaned up the vague or inconsistent wording on some of the rules. Combat spells do more damage but spirits are not as overpowered. Some augmentations are cheaper, and the rules for wireless and bricking have been drastically revised - they make a lot more sense now. Great job, Catalyst!








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And Deckers are Hackers again? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 13 2014, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (Glyph @ Jul 13 2014, 01:18 AM) *
Hey, the street samurai isn't 200,000+ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) over any longer, and the combat mage has an Edge of 7 like he's supposed to. All the typos have been fixed, and they've really cleaned up the vague or inconsistent wording on some of the rules. Combat spells do more damage but spirits are not as overpowered. Some augmentations are cheaper, and the rules for wireless and bricking have been drastically revised - they make a lot more sense now. Great job, Catalyst!








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at First I was flabbergasted .
I thought a Miracle happened.
Than I checked the Date and it was not April the first, I started to feel Happy,.....
than I saw the smiley and I was like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)
This post ,Glyph, is a cruel Joke !!

with a very sad Dance
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post Jul 13 2014, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jul 13 2014, 03:45 AM) *
at First I was flabebrgasted .
I thought a Miracle happened.
Than I checked the Date and it was not April the first, I started to feel Happy,.....
than I saw the smiley and I was like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)
This post ,Glyph, is a cruel Joke !!

with a very sad Dance
Medicineman
Yes, but sadly it's not Glyph telling the real joke. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)


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post Jul 13 2014, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jul 13 2014, 04:29 AM) *
Yes, but sadly it's not Glyph telling the real joke. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)


What's CGL's doing I don't consider a Joke

with an unfunny Dance
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post Jul 13 2014, 12:51 PM
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Why bother releasing this without a full and accurate update? What's the point? The errata is all available for them to pick from.
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post Jul 13 2014, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (Samoth @ Jul 13 2014, 04:51 PM) *
Why bother releasing this without a full and accurate update? What's the point? The errata is all available for them to pick from.
You seem to presume the errata is a full and accurate update, not a work of a single freelancer that he forced through the editing.
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post Jul 13 2014, 02:00 PM
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So what ARE the changes?
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post Jul 13 2014, 06:46 PM
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Mystic Adept Power Point Cost during character creation. [edit: Removed Submerssion. It is not fixed]
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post Jul 13 2014, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 13 2014, 10:00 AM) *
So what ARE the changes?

Primarily everything you saw in the 5th Ed errata they released, just now in the corebook PDF.

Probably touched up a few other points, but without a list for these it is a matter of flipping back and forth between the copies...
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post Jul 13 2014, 09:21 PM
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Out of curiosity: anyone received an email from Battlecorps.com/Catalyst?
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post Jul 13 2014, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Jul 13 2014, 11:21 PM) *
Out of curiosity: anyone received an email from Battlecorps.com/Catalyst?

I got one from randall@catalystgamelabs, but via drivethru.


And unfortunately I overwrote the old file, so no chance to let Acrobat compare the files...my favorite bug (armor bonus and encumbrance) was not fixed, at any rate.
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post Jul 13 2014, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Jul 13 2014, 11:21 PM) *
Out of curiosity: anyone received an email from Battlecorps.com/Catalyst?

Yes, I got my e-mail from customerservice.catalyst@gmail.com 24 hours ago (minus 5 minutes as I write this).
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post Jul 14 2014, 03:16 AM
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Interesting. Guess I'll just wait for mine... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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post Jul 14 2014, 03:45 AM
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For those that still have the old copy:
Keep it and download the new one separately. There exist file-diff utilities (a good Windows one is called Beyond Compare, the trial version is pretty decent IIRC) and PDFs are largely plain text. Well, the text is text; the images and stuff are stored as binary data. But Beyond Compare does a pretty good job of matching up the text sections. For the times it can't you can at least get a rough idea of where it is (nearby text) and locate it and compare side by side manually. I've done it on OCR'd documents (not gaming materials, but medical junk given to us by a client).
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post Jul 14 2014, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE (Method @ Jul 13 2014, 11:21 PM) *
Out of curiosity: anyone received an email from Battlecorps.com/Catalyst?

Got mine from Randall Bills, sent via Mandrillapp according to the mail's signature. 12. July 2014 21:14
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post Jul 14 2014, 08:11 AM
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Using the Beyond Compare we get the following:

8437 same line(s)
50 unimportant left orphan line(s)
43 unimportant right orphan line(s)
24197 unimportant difference line(s)
322 important left orphan line(s)
312 important right orphan line(s)
1103 important difference line(s)

1880 difference section(s)

I have to argue what constitutes important as my purchase code embedded in the pages of my file from DriveThru shows up as important difference, so the actual amount of 'important' differences is less than what is listed.
Which is pretty silly since I am trying to skip over these to find the real meat....

Anyway, the previously released 5th Ed errata has been integrated into this.

Some sections got bumped around.
Shadowrun Slang went from page 15 to page 8.

A LOT of the corrections are minor editing like capitalizing letters or fixing some spelling. Worldwatch becomes Wordwatch for example.

There is some weird ones though

QUOTE ( ORIGINAL 5th Ed Pg 433)
Tripod: The tripod provides a stable base to fire a weapon low to the ground with the user kneeling or sit- ting. A tripod can be attached to the underbarrel mount and provides 6 points of Recoil Compensation when properly deployed. Attaching a tripod takes one minute. Folding up or deploying a tripod is a Complex Action, as is removing it. Wireless: Folding up, deploying, or removing the tripod is a Free Action.


QUOTE (NEW REVISED 5th Ed Pg 433)
Tripod: The tripod provides a stable base to fire a weapon low to the ground with the user kneeling or sitting. A tripod can be attached to the underbarrel mount and provides 6 points of Recoil Compensation when properly deployed. Attaching a tripod takes one minute. Folding up or deploying the bipod is a Free Action. Wireless: Folding up, deploying, or removing the tripod is a Free Action.


Emphasis mine.

So Folding up or deplying the tripod is a free action, so why bother going wireless since the bonus is the same. The only advantage from going wireless is removing becomes a free action (some kind of auto-release I suppose), but now it doesn't tell you how long it takes to remove without wireless (still a complex action I assume).
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post Jul 14 2014, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE ("ORIGINAL 5th Ed Pg 433")
Folding up or deploying a tripod is a Complex Action, as is removing it. Wireless: Folding up, deploying, or removing the tripod is a Free Action.
QUOTE ("NEW REVISED 5th Ed Pg 433")
Folding up or deploying the bipod is a Free Action. Wireless: Folding up, deploying, or removing the tripod is a Free Action.
Emphasis mine. It seems Wireless is now required to deploy the third leg.
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post Jul 14 2014, 08:51 AM
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LOL.. I missed that... heh.
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post Jul 14 2014, 09:42 AM
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*sigh* Why ...
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