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BigJake
post Nov 6 2014, 01:52 AM
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Hey chummers, long-time lurker, first-time poster. Hope everyone's doing well.

I have a little bleg to make and I think (I hope) Dumpshock is the right place to do it. Here's the thing; I'm building a setting for an SR campaign. It's going to be in a megaplex version of Orlando, Florida (there are some timeline and setting tweaks going on that I won't bore you with, basically all you need to know is that Orlando is the epicentre of Florida's population and politics in this altered setting... mainly so that there can be a climactic run in the whacked-out dystopian version of Disneyland). The thing is, the way I've worked out how the population and demographics are going to look, Spanish and Haitian Creole slang should be a major part of the local argot along with all the familiar "dreks" and "frags" and "chummers" and "omaes" we know and love so well.

Trouble is I don't really speak Spanish or Haitian Creole. I have some ideas for what I'd use based on online translators and tools, but I was hoping to get some input from some honest-to-God speakers of either (or both) languages. If there's anyone out there with some fluency in Dumpshock-land, what I'm looking for is your read on what kind of slang you'd use for any of the following:

- A pal (male or female, a casual term of endearment like "buddy" or "chummer")
- A bro / close male friend or family member
- A sister / close female friend or family member
- An idiot

- F--- (or some other f-bomb level curse)
- Drek / Garbage / Sh*t or something analogous
- Telling someone to f--- off (or the equivalent)

- A bad situation
- A mess / a screw-up
- Something great
- Getting drunk
- Getting laid
- Being broke
- Being flush / rich

- A mutant
- Something gross or grotesque
- Something big and ugly
- Something that implies being gay or effeminate
- Something that implies being a circus freak

- A boss
- A connection or contact
- A snitch

- The cops (in derogatory fashion)
- Prison
- Regular people (in derogatory fashion)

- Jacking in
- Jacking out
- Being wired
- Being chromed / having cyberware

Ideally what I'm aiming for is slang / thieves' argot versions of these concepts rather than straight translations (wherever that's possible); idioms that would sound natural to the ear of a native speaker. Any ideas and input would be gratefully welcomed. Thanks so much.
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post Nov 6 2014, 05:26 AM
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The best insult I've ever heard for an idiot, hands-down, is the Spanish word pendejo. ("pen-day-ho") It not only carries connotations of stupidity, but willful stupidity and ignorance. The standard Japanese baka comes close.
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post Nov 6 2014, 06:09 AM
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Some ideas:

- A pal (male or female, a casual term of endearment like "buddy" or "chummer")
Ami (from French, via Creole)
- An idiot
Actually, the words idiot, and idiota, are pretty similar ... I wouldn't bother getting too exotic here.

- A boss
Le Chef

Romance languages aren't really my thing, sorry.
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ProfGast
post Nov 6 2014, 02:57 PM
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I do have some background in Spanish, but after a quick bit of research I found my knowledge is probably not applicable given the Spanish I know is more the Mexican-american variety that would be common in the southwest. Wikipedia claims that Orlando is predominantly Spanish speakers of Puerto Rican descent which means this link may be useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Puert...rds_and_phrases

The other majority of Spanish speakers would be Cuban, which means this may help you out some: http://www.havana-guide.com/learn-spanish.html

A quick possibility on expletives:
- F--- (or some other f-bomb level curse) ¡Puta Madre! literally "Whore of a mother"
- Drek / Garbage / Sh*t or something analogous Mierda or Miercoles for sh*t. The second is the somewhat more polite euphemism (literally Wednesday)
- Telling someone to f--- off (or the equivalent) ¡Vete pa'l carajo! or if the wiki is to be believed Vete pa'l Caribe Hilton
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post Nov 6 2014, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (BigJake @ Nov 5 2014, 05:52 PM) *
mainly so that there can be a climactic run in the whacked-out dystopian version of Disneyland


Disneyworld. Disneyland is in L.A. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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BigJake
post Nov 6 2014, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (Rad @ Nov 6 2014, 05:52 PM) *
Disneyworld. Disneyland is in L.A. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Right you are. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thanks everyone for the responses so far and to ProfGast for those links. The difference between variants of Spanish is an important and helpful cue.
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