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 Mar 28 2015, 12:25 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157  |
This is a question for the older players. Does anyone know if there exists an archive of the ShadowTK mailing list from its heyday back in the '90s? Bonus points if you can answer the same for ShadowRN and ShadowGM.
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Mar 28 2015, 01:14 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
If anyone would have it, it'd be Mark Imbriaco (Neuron Basher). I'll ask, though I doubt it.
Ahhh, TK... I have fond memories. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 28 2015, 01:17 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 27 2015, 09:14 PM)  If anyone would have it, it'd be Mark Imbriaco (Neuron Basher). I'll ask, though I doubt it. Ahhh, TK... I have fond memories. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) As always, you rock sir! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah, I have been roaming the old highways of seizure inducing archived Geocities pages, and making use of the wayback machine to try and find an archive. No luck yet, though I have many old links. I was pointed here by Gurth, and Mark's name was mentioned so... Keeping my fingers crossed. Nostalgia's great, isn't it? |
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Mar 28 2015, 01:28 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (pdboddy @ Mar 27 2015, 09:17 PM) As always, you rock sir! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah, I have been roaming the old highways of seizure inducing archived Geocities pages, and making use of the wayback machine to try and find an archive. No luck yet, though I have many old links. I was pointed here by Gurth, and Mark's name was mentioned so... Keeping my fingers crossed. Nostalgia's great, isn't it? It's funny. A couple nights ago I was reminiscing on Facebook and digging through some of my old web page files. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Anyway, talked to Mark. He has the original servers in his garage, but they haven't been turned on in years, so he has no idea if they would even still work. He thinks he has backups somewhere, but isn't sure where, but apparently we piqued his curiosity, so he's gonna look. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 28 2015, 01:30 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 27 2015, 09:28 PM) It's funny. A couple nights ago I was reminiscing on Facebook and digging through some of my old web page files. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Anyway, talked to Mark. He has the original servers in his garage, but they haven't been turned on in years, so he has no idea if they would even still work. He thinks he has backups somewhere, but isn't sure where, but apparently we piqued his curiosity, so he's gonna look. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks Bull! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And pass along my thanks to Mark as well. Hopefully a bit of nostalgia can be payment enough. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Mar 28 2015, 01:31 AM
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The Ghost in our Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 166 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Unlisted Datastore Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (pdboddy @ Mar 27 2015, 10:17 PM) As always, you rock sir! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah, I have been roaming the old highways of seizure inducing archived Geocities pages, and making use of the wayback machine to try and find an archive. No luck yet, though I have many old links. I was pointed here by Gurth, and Mark's name was mentioned so... Keeping my fingers crossed. Nostalgia's great, isn't it? I'm pretty sure I have that old data somewhere, I just have to find it. I know I have the old servers in my garage, so if nothing else I can probably yank the drives out of them and mount them. I'll see what I can find. |
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Mar 28 2015, 01:41 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 27 2015, 09:31 PM) I'm pretty sure I have that old data somewhere, I just have to find it. I know I have the old servers in my garage, so if nothing else I can probably yank the drives out of them and mount them. I'll see what I can find. Thank you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 28 2015, 09:02 PM
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the Coke in the Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 128 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Cascadia Member No.: 46 |
I have a ShadowTK archive (and really, ALL messages from ALL important Shadowrun mailing lists and forums from 1992 to early 2003) in a 1.3Gb database sitting on my home server.
Now, what format do you need them on? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 28 2015, 09:03 PM
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the Coke in the Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 128 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Cascadia Member No.: 46 |
Is my member number really lower than Bull? Wow, rockin' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Mar 29 2015, 04:31 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (ThatPaolo @ Mar 28 2015, 05:02 PM) I have a ShadowTK archive (and really, ALL messages from ALL important Shadowrun mailing lists and forums from 1992 to early 2003) in a 1.3Gb database sitting on my home server. Now, what format do you need them on? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Zip? XD I don't know what the best way to transfer such a database. FTP maybe? Bittorrent? |
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Mar 29 2015, 04:33 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (ThatPaolo @ Mar 28 2015, 05:03 PM) Is my member number really lower than Bull? Wow, rockin' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Well, the person who is your avatar has been around a while. |
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Mar 29 2015, 05:23 AM
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the Coke in the Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 128 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Cascadia Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (pdboddy @ Mar 28 2015, 09:31 PM) Zip? XD I don't know what the best way to transfer such a database. FTP maybe? Bittorrent? The data is in an Access database. I could extract it with some queries or I could whip up a quick website to do searches on it (something I almost competed at dumpshock but never released) |
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Mar 29 2015, 06:38 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
I'm kinda curious as to who has the numbers lower than us, actually. Me, you, Dvix, Adam, Jestyr, Mark... Who else was here at the very beginning of Deep Resonance? I think Pistons and Spudman joined us a little while after we started up.
Were some of the lower members maybe SR character names we nabbed to prevent them from being used, maybe? Like Fastjack and Dunklezahn and the like? |
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Mar 29 2015, 01:37 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (ThatPaolo @ Mar 29 2015, 12:23 AM) The data is in an Access database. I could extract it with some queries or I could whip up a quick website to do searches on it (something I almost competed at dumpshock but never released) Uhm. Whichever works better/faster? |
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Mar 29 2015, 05:47 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 29 2015, 01:38 AM) I'm kinda curious as to who has the numbers lower than us, actually. Me, you, Dvix, Adam, Jestyr, Mark... Who else was here at the very beginning of Deep Resonance? I think Pistons and Spudman joined us a little while after we started up. Were some of the lower members maybe SR character names we nabbed to prevent them from being used, maybe? Like Fastjack and Dunklezahn and the like? hmmm... I'm gonna guess.... some of these people. of course, I could be wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Mar 29 2015, 08:44 PM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 29 2015, 01:47 PM) hmmm... I'm gonna guess.... some of these people. of course, I could be wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Yeah, join date doesn't quite work. Dumpshock (under it's original name Deep Resonance) has been around since... 1999 or so? At some point we switched over software and imported the database, IIRC, so there are several hundred members with that join date because of that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 29 2015, 08:48 PM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
Hehe. Doing that also shows just how conflated DS's Membership numbers are. Page after page of members who "joined" in 2002, but have 0 posts.
(To be fair, all forums get like that unless the admin prune those members periodically. I know we never did). |
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Mar 29 2015, 08:58 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Hm. An archive of these old mailing lists would indeed be interesting, Paolo.
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Mar 29 2015, 09:32 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 29 2015, 04:58 PM) Hm. An archive of these old mailing lists would indeed be interesting, Paolo. Yeah, Gurth from the current ShadowRN mailing list is interested in the TK, RN, GM and plot ones if they still exist as an archive. |
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Mar 29 2015, 09:45 PM
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The Ghost in our Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 166 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Unlisted Datastore Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 29 2015, 03:38 AM) I'm kinda curious as to who has the numbers lower than us, actually. Me, you, Dvix, Adam, Jestyr, Mark... Who else was here at the very beginning of Deep Resonance? I think Pistons and Spudman joined us a little while after we started up. Pretty sure you nailed it with the initial crew. I would have been first since I installed the software, but we were all there right at the beginning. QUOTE Were some of the lower members maybe SR character names we nabbed to prevent them from being used, maybe? Like Fastjack and Dunklezahn and the like? We did reserve a few, but it also looks like some member numbers have been adjusted. Not really a big deal, we're all old timers at this point. Hard to believe it was 1992 when I created the first Shadowrun related web site and then Paolo came along and made a much better one not long thereafter. Ah, the good old days. We need a reunion tour. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Mar 29 2015, 09:50 PM
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The Ghost in our Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 166 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Unlisted Datastore Member No.: 52 |
Also, I found the old drive that the site ran on. It was an IDE drive, and I don't have a computer with an IDE interface anymore, so I had to order a USB to IDE adapter. Got that today and I was able to pull the raw original logs from 1992-1999 off of it.
The newer archives were running on a VMware ESX virtual machine and I'm pulling the VMDK files off of that drive right now to see if modern VMware can read them. Stay tuned! |
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Mar 29 2015, 10:59 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 29 2015, 04:50 PM) Also, I found the old drive that the site ran on. It was an IDE drive, and I don't have a computer with an IDE interface anymore, so I had to order a USB to IDE adapter. Got that today and I was able to pull the raw original logs from 1992-1999 off of it. The newer archives were running on a VMware ESX virtual machine and I'm pulling the VMDK files off of that drive right now to see if modern VMware can read them. Stay tuned! Sweet, dude, you're awesome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 29 2015, 11:00 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 13,157 |
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 29 2015, 04:45 PM) Pretty sure you nailed it with the initial crew. I would have been first since I installed the software, but we were all there right at the beginning. We did reserve a few, but it also looks like some member numbers have been adjusted. Not really a big deal, we're all old timers at this point. Hard to believe it was 1992 when I created the first Shadowrun related web site and then Paolo came along and made a much better one not long thereafter. Ah, the good old days. We need a reunion tour. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Well, Shadowrun is from 1989, so you were there right at the start. I still have one of the first BBB in Ottawa. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) I wonder how dated SR1 is... |
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Mar 30 2015, 02:52 AM
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The Ghost in our Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 166 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Unlisted Datastore Member No.: 52 |
Yup, I have an original hardcover SR1 on the bookshelf upstairs.
So, good news! All the archives from 1992-2007 are now available and shared in a single ~400MB zip file that will expand to around 1.3GB when you unzip it. There are various formats and some amount of duplication where messages exist both as HTML and as mbox files, but all the content should be there. https://www.dropbox.com/s/togu0ymqwz37c5x/archives.zip?dl=0 Hope everyone enjoys the trip down memory lane! Remember, never trust an elf and never deal with a dragon. |
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Mar 30 2015, 03:44 AM
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the Coke in the Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 128 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Cascadia Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 29 2015, 06:52 PM) Yup, I have an original hardcover SR1 on the bookshelf upstairs. So, good news! All the archives from 1992-2007 are now available and shared in a single ~400MB zip file that will expand to around 1.3GB when you unzip it. There are various formats and some amount of duplication where messages exist both as HTML and as mbox files, but all the content should be there. https://www.dropbox.com/s/togu0ymqwz37c5x/archives.zip?dl=0 Hope everyone enjoys the trip down memory lane! Remember, never trust an elf and never deal with a dragon. Sweet, thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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