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pdboddy
This is a question for the older players. Does anyone know if there exists an archive of the ShadowTK mailing list from its heyday back in the '90s? Bonus points if you can answer the same for ShadowRN and ShadowGM.
Bull
If anyone would have it, it'd be Mark Imbriaco (Neuron Basher). I'll ask, though I doubt it.

Ahhh, TK... I have fond memories. smile.gif
pdboddy
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 27 2015, 09:14 PM) *
If anyone would have it, it'd be Mark Imbriaco (Neuron Basher). I'll ask, though I doubt it.

Ahhh, TK... I have fond memories. smile.gif


As always, you rock sir! smile.gif

Yeah, I have been roaming the old highways of seizure inducing archived Geocities pages, and making use of the wayback machine to try and find an archive. No luck yet, though I have many old links.

I was pointed here by Gurth, and Mark's name was mentioned so... Keeping my fingers crossed.

Nostalgia's great, isn't it?
Bull
QUOTE (pdboddy @ Mar 27 2015, 09:17 PM) *
As always, you rock sir! smile.gif

Yeah, I have been roaming the old highways of seizure inducing archived Geocities pages, and making use of the wayback machine to try and find an archive. No luck yet, though I have many old links.

I was pointed here by Gurth, and Mark's name was mentioned so... Keeping my fingers crossed.

Nostalgia's great, isn't it?


It's funny. A couple nights ago I was reminiscing on Facebook and digging through some of my old web page files. smile.gif

Anyway, talked to Mark. He has the original servers in his garage, but they haven't been turned on in years, so he has no idea if they would even still work. He thinks he has backups somewhere, but isn't sure where, but apparently we piqued his curiosity, so he's gonna look. smile.gif
pdboddy
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 27 2015, 09:28 PM) *
It's funny. A couple nights ago I was reminiscing on Facebook and digging through some of my old web page files. smile.gif

Anyway, talked to Mark. He has the original servers in his garage, but they haven't been turned on in years, so he has no idea if they would even still work. He thinks he has backups somewhere, but isn't sure where, but apparently we piqued his curiosity, so he's gonna look. smile.gif


Thanks Bull! smile.gif And pass along my thanks to Mark as well. Hopefully a bit of nostalgia can be payment enough. biggrin.gif
Neuron Basher
QUOTE (pdboddy @ Mar 27 2015, 10:17 PM) *
As always, you rock sir! smile.gif

Yeah, I have been roaming the old highways of seizure inducing archived Geocities pages, and making use of the wayback machine to try and find an archive. No luck yet, though I have many old links.

I was pointed here by Gurth, and Mark's name was mentioned so... Keeping my fingers crossed.

Nostalgia's great, isn't it?


I'm pretty sure I have that old data somewhere, I just have to find it. I know I have the old servers in my garage, so if nothing else I can probably yank the drives out of them and mount them. I'll see what I can find.
pdboddy
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 27 2015, 09:31 PM) *
I'm pretty sure I have that old data somewhere, I just have to find it. I know I have the old servers in my garage, so if nothing else I can probably yank the drives out of them and mount them. I'll see what I can find.


Thank you! smile.gif
ThatPaolo
I have a ShadowTK archive (and really, ALL messages from ALL important Shadowrun mailing lists and forums from 1992 to early 2003) in a 1.3Gb database sitting on my home server.

Now, what format do you need them on? smile.gif
ThatPaolo
Is my member number really lower than Bull? Wow, rockin' smile.gif
pdboddy
QUOTE (ThatPaolo @ Mar 28 2015, 05:02 PM) *
I have a ShadowTK archive (and really, ALL messages from ALL important Shadowrun mailing lists and forums from 1992 to early 2003) in a 1.3Gb database sitting on my home server.

Now, what format do you need them on? smile.gif


Zip? XD

I don't know what the best way to transfer such a database. FTP maybe? Bittorrent?
pdboddy
QUOTE (ThatPaolo @ Mar 28 2015, 05:03 PM) *
Is my member number really lower than Bull? Wow, rockin' smile.gif


Well, the person who is your avatar has been around a while.
ThatPaolo
QUOTE (pdboddy @ Mar 28 2015, 09:31 PM) *
Zip? XD

I don't know what the best way to transfer such a database. FTP maybe? Bittorrent?

The data is in an Access database. I could extract it with some queries or I could whip up a quick website to do searches on it (something I almost competed at dumpshock but never released)
Bull
I'm kinda curious as to who has the numbers lower than us, actually. Me, you, Dvix, Adam, Jestyr, Mark... Who else was here at the very beginning of Deep Resonance? I think Pistons and Spudman joined us a little while after we started up.

Were some of the lower members maybe SR character names we nabbed to prevent them from being used, maybe? Like Fastjack and Dunklezahn and the like?
pdboddy
QUOTE (ThatPaolo @ Mar 29 2015, 12:23 AM) *
The data is in an Access database. I could extract it with some queries or I could whip up a quick website to do searches on it (something I almost competed at dumpshock but never released)


Uhm. Whichever works better/faster?
Jaid
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 29 2015, 01:38 AM) *
I'm kinda curious as to who has the numbers lower than us, actually. Me, you, Dvix, Adam, Jestyr, Mark... Who else was here at the very beginning of Deep Resonance? I think Pistons and Spudman joined us a little while after we started up.

Were some of the lower members maybe SR character names we nabbed to prevent them from being used, maybe? Like Fastjack and Dunklezahn and the like?


hmmm...

I'm gonna guess....

some of these people.

of course, I could be wrong nyahnyah.gif
Bull
QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 29 2015, 01:47 PM) *
hmmm...

I'm gonna guess....

some of these people.

of course, I could be wrong nyahnyah.gif


Yeah, join date doesn't quite work. Dumpshock (under it's original name Deep Resonance) has been around since... 1999 or so? At some point we switched over software and imported the database, IIRC, so there are several hundred members with that join date because of that. smile.gif
Bull
Hehe. Doing that also shows just how conflated DS's Membership numbers are. Page after page of members who "joined" in 2002, but have 0 posts.

(To be fair, all forums get like that unless the admin prune those members periodically. I know we never did).
hermit
Hm. An archive of these old mailing lists would indeed be interesting, Paolo.
pdboddy
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 29 2015, 04:58 PM) *
Hm. An archive of these old mailing lists would indeed be interesting, Paolo.


Yeah, Gurth from the current ShadowRN mailing list is interested in the TK, RN, GM and plot ones if they still exist as an archive.
Neuron Basher
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 29 2015, 03:38 AM) *
I'm kinda curious as to who has the numbers lower than us, actually. Me, you, Dvix, Adam, Jestyr, Mark... Who else was here at the very beginning of Deep Resonance? I think Pistons and Spudman joined us a little while after we started up.


Pretty sure you nailed it with the initial crew. I would have been first since I installed the software, but we were all there right at the beginning.

QUOTE
Were some of the lower members maybe SR character names we nabbed to prevent them from being used, maybe? Like Fastjack and Dunklezahn and the like?


We did reserve a few, but it also looks like some member numbers have been adjusted. Not really a big deal, we're all old timers at this point. Hard to believe it was 1992 when I created the first Shadowrun related web site and then Paolo came along and made a much better one not long thereafter. Ah, the good old days. We need a reunion tour. nyahnyah.gif
Neuron Basher
Also, I found the old drive that the site ran on. It was an IDE drive, and I don't have a computer with an IDE interface anymore, so I had to order a USB to IDE adapter. Got that today and I was able to pull the raw original logs from 1992-1999 off of it.

The newer archives were running on a VMware ESX virtual machine and I'm pulling the VMDK files off of that drive right now to see if modern VMware can read them. Stay tuned!

pdboddy
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 29 2015, 04:50 PM) *
Also, I found the old drive that the site ran on. It was an IDE drive, and I don't have a computer with an IDE interface anymore, so I had to order a USB to IDE adapter. Got that today and I was able to pull the raw original logs from 1992-1999 off of it.

The newer archives were running on a VMware ESX virtual machine and I'm pulling the VMDK files off of that drive right now to see if modern VMware can read them. Stay tuned!


Sweet, dude, you're awesome! smile.gif
pdboddy
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 29 2015, 04:45 PM) *
Pretty sure you nailed it with the initial crew. I would have been first since I installed the software, but we were all there right at the beginning.

We did reserve a few, but it also looks like some member numbers have been adjusted. Not really a big deal, we're all old timers at this point. Hard to believe it was 1992 when I created the first Shadowrun related web site and then Paolo came along and made a much better one not long thereafter. Ah, the good old days. We need a reunion tour. nyahnyah.gif


Well, Shadowrun is from 1989, so you were there right at the start. I still have one of the first BBB in Ottawa. nyahnyah.gif I wonder how dated SR1 is...
Neuron Basher
Yup, I have an original hardcover SR1 on the bookshelf upstairs.

So, good news! All the archives from 1992-2007 are now available and shared in a single ~400MB zip file that will expand to around 1.3GB when you unzip it. There are various formats and some amount of duplication where messages exist both as HTML and as mbox files, but all the content should be there.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/togu0ymqwz37c5x/archives.zip?dl=0

Hope everyone enjoys the trip down memory lane!

Remember, never trust an elf and never deal with a dragon.

ThatPaolo
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 29 2015, 06:52 PM) *
Yup, I have an original hardcover SR1 on the bookshelf upstairs.

So, good news! All the archives from 1992-2007 are now available and shared in a single ~400MB zip file that will expand to around 1.3GB when you unzip it. There are various formats and some amount of duplication where messages exist both as HTML and as mbox files, but all the content should be there.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/togu0ymqwz37c5x/archives.zip?dl=0

Hope everyone enjoys the trip down memory lane!

Remember, never trust an elf and never deal with a dragon.

Sweet, thank you smile.gif
Bull
Oh jesus.
Tony
Thank you, Mark!

This will be an interesting read. smile.gif
Neko Asakami
Logged in just to say thank you for this epic piece of nostalgia.

Edit: My virus scanner came up with a few hits (Mostly I-Worm/Netsky) as I was unzipping this. Can anyone else confirm or deny the virii?
NightRain
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 30 2015, 07:45 AM) *
Pretty sure you nailed it with the initial crew. I would have been first since I installed the software, but we were all there right at the beginning.


I was an initial hanger on, rather than initial crew. That counts for something right? smile.gif
Alareth
I miss #shadowun
pdboddy
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 29 2015, 10:52 PM) *
Yup, I have an original hardcover SR1 on the bookshelf upstairs.

So, good news! All the archives from 1992-2007 are now available and shared in a single ~400MB zip file that will expand to around 1.3GB when you unzip it. There are various formats and some amount of duplication where messages exist both as HTML and as mbox files, but all the content should be there.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/togu0ymqwz37c5x/archives.zip?dl=0

Hope everyone enjoys the trip down memory lane!

Remember, never trust an elf and never deal with a dragon.


Thanks dude, you rock. smile.gif
Shaidar
QUOTE (Neko Asakami @ Mar 29 2015, 09:39 PM) *
Logged in just to say thank you for this epic piece of nostalgia.

Edit: My virus scanner came up with a few hits (Mostly I-Worm/Netsky) as I was unzipping this. Can anyone else confirm or deny the virii?


I can confirm your diagnosis I-Worm/Netsky.
Neuron Basher
I'm not surprised to see some old viruses in there. The archives that you see are the raw email logs from the list, which is going to be a straight copy of the incoming email. As long as you don't extract those attachments there shouldn't be any way for you to be infected, though I'd refrain from opening those files in anything beyond a text editor.
Neko Asakami
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 30 2015, 06:55 PM) *
I'm not surprised to see some old viruses in there.


Looks like I'm playing Bug Hunter in a VM this weekend. You should probably update the post with the DL link just to be safe.
Sendaz
Soooo... Y2K part II ? nyahnyah.gif

Just teasing..

am going to try and download/read these over the easter break when hopefully I get some free time
pdboddy
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 30 2015, 09:55 PM) *
I'm not surprised to see some old viruses in there. The archives that you see are the raw email logs from the list, which is going to be a straight copy of the incoming email. As long as you don't extract those attachments there shouldn't be any way for you to be infected, though I'd refrain from opening those files in anything beyond a text editor.


Gurth, of the current ShadowRN mailing list, was unconcerned about the virus warnings, he said he believes them to be false positives. But always good to be careful.

He has parsed the mailing list archives into readable HTML pages: http://shadowrn.understairs.nl/logs.php

Once more I'd like to thank everyone for their hand in this. What was lost has now been rescued from jaws of time.
Voran
And thus we release an old forgotten supervirus that brings about the fall of the internet!
Czar Eggbert
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 30 2015, 02:52 AM) *
Yup, I have an original hardcover SR1 on the bookshelf upstairs.

So, good news! All the archives from 1992-2007 are now available and shared in a single ~400MB zip file that will expand to around 1.3GB when you unzip it. There are various formats and some amount of duplication where messages exist both as HTML and as mbox files, but all the content should be there.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/togu0ymqwz37c5x/archives.zip?dl=0

Hope everyone enjoys the trip down memory lane!

Remember, never trust an elf and never deal with a dragon.


Must not download... Just think of the shear number of carp (and no I did not misspell crap) in that zip file!


- Czar Eggbert
Czar Eggbert
QUOTE (Voran @ Apr 8 2015, 12:51 AM) *
And thus we release an old forgotten supervirus that brings about the fall of the internet!



And thus the Crash of 2015...


-Czar Eggbert
Jason Lynch
QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Mar 30 2015, 03:52 AM) *
Yup, I have an original hardcover SR1 on the bookshelf upstairs.

So, good news! All the archives from 1992-2007 are now available and shared in a single ~400MB zip file that will expand to around 1.3GB when you unzip it. There are various formats and some amount of duplication where messages exist both as HTML and as mbox files, but all the content should be there.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/togu0ymqwz37c5x/archives.zip?dl=0

Hope everyone enjoys the trip down memory lane!


Talk about nostalgia... there's some good stuff in there (some of it even mine...)

Mark, many thanks for finding and sharing that.

--
Paul J. Adam
Cassandra Defence Consulting

This is one of the great sadnesses: to have much knowledge, and little power.
Chrome Tiger
Finally got around to catching up on my plethora of open tabs and grabbed this archive. Yep. There goes my productivity. That aside, many thanks for sharing!
Ryu
Having a full download will certainly be better, but anyway: Archive Link
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