Run! Recruitment, 2075/6 Persistent Game World Thread Options

[irn0rchid]

I'm not going to be able to contribute till probably tomorrow, but everything seems to be going fine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Aria]

Sorry for dragging out the 'trial.' Aria -- do you want to have Rick say something here, or should I carry on?

I'm loving it, please crack on! I'm away for 4 days now so unlikely to be able to post, if you want to write something for Rick to say that's fine, he wants this done to focus on the toxic! To keep the moral quandary going he might offer Mohammed exile as an alternative to branding, perhaps Maya will take him in?!?

This was always intended to be more horror than desert island discs ;D

[Beta]

Just a quick note that my phone seems to have suddenly died this morning (sent text, put in pocket, pulled it out three minutes later and completely unresponsive). I write my longer posts on the computer, but I did a lot of keeping up with what was going on, or shorter posts in the ooc thread, on the phone. So if I seem a bit less present for a while that will be why.

[Beta]

I've got the next part planned out, but want to know if Maya will be there. Sorry for the long gap between posts -- great concert last night, but it kept me off the computer.

[irn0rchid]

Hah, was finally about to start typing something up and Beta got there first! Going to wait till Maya responds, but once they get to the council Lindsey is going to push for a guilty verdict and upholding the punishment laid out by Addie originally. Doesn't stop him from helping out, makes a real visible statement, and will constantly remind the girls of the 'boy danger'. If you've got a plan for the meeting Beta, you're welcome to just have Lindsey basically say that if you don't want to wait for me to post in the middle of it.

[Beta]

I'm good with that -- what Addie is going for too (especially with magical healing available, and even Maya's first aid skills)

[Imladir]

Maybe you should ask if the mages are ok to heal (or Dana at least, since you don't know for Cailin but you do for her) ^^ If Sim doesn't know the spell at least, otherwise I don't see why he wouldn't.

[Beta]

Maybe you should ask if the mages are ok to heal (or Dana at least, since you don't know for Cailin but you do for her) ^^ If Sim doesn't know the spell at least, otherwise I don't see why he wouldn't.

Absolutely --- that was why I wrote Rick calling Maya over (to bring her into that conversation, then she can pull others in (we don't know Caillin as well, Dana has wandered farther away).

And heck, maybe Maya -- or any of the rest of the small group who joins the conversation -- will come up with a punishment option that all will like better.

Or maybe the entire small camp group washes their hands of the whole situation, refusing to get involved in it, because they feel it has nothing to do with them. But Addie still doesn't understand that impulse, so she won't really be taking it into account.

[Imladir]

we don't know Caillin as well, Dana has wandered farther away.

No problem, in fact I much prefer it that way, I don't know what would be Cailin's reaction to that ^^

And heck, maybe Maya -- or any of the rest of the small group who joins the conversation -- will come up with a punishment option that all will like better.

I would (have another option at least, as for "liking" it, it's another matter), but...

Or maybe the entire small camp group washes their hands of the whole situation, refusing to get involved in it, because they feel it has nothing to do with them.

It may very well be true for Cailin but she won't take the initiative. Maybe if asked she would, but I'm not even sure of that. It would send a weird message if Maya asked the others' opinion right now in fact, when the main campers weren't consulted...

[Gilga]

The way I read the text, I find it a bit offensive that Rick invites Maya to discuss his verdict. If I was one of the kids that it would have made me extremely upset. She is not council and actually not even part of that camp.
You bring her, an outsider and a woman into the most delicate of discussions. How can she possibly be objective?

1. she is a woman and would take.

2. She is an outsider - does she really have the best of that camp in mind when she offer her thing? Does she have to live with the consequences ?

3. As far as the popular crowd goes, the small camp is still a suspect for the attack. The council initially came together to discuss the attack last night, some of the people in the council have claimed responsibility - including Sim that wanted to lunch a retaliation. This is the council - the people that take responsibility not the mob. The mob would be easier excited.

That is I fail to see how Maya can join that discussion without unrest at camp, perhaps a rebellion even. I'd imagine the orcs looking up for their own sticking in for him - perhaps even arguing that Muhammad is more useful than Nyaf so she is the one that should leave. They want to survive right? Going against the popular opinion of physically superior orcs is not the way to do so.

[Beta]

Well, Rick has more than once tried to get Maya into the camp leaderships(before she left, saying he'd want her to lead the large camp while he led the push against the supposed toxic shaman), so it seemed to me consistent that he would pull her in again if he can.

In another thread, he doesn't seem to have much eagerness to brand anyone, and exile to Maya's group might be an out -- but she would have to agree (he'd see it as Maya's group, I'm guessing, while Maya might want to consult with her group rather than make a unilateral decision)

And from a player perspective, it pulls another player into that discussion.

[Gilga]

If you want a reasonable way out, just volunteer him to hunt the toxic.

I see a rebellion if you try to brand him, I do not see a strong orc fighter that is basically one of the backbone of camp security humiliated without consequences. Especially over a grey case of he said she said, and go figure where the truth really lies. Lindsey was already making things worse for the girls with the share of the hunt. Just saying, realistically speaking it is orcs that are probably running that camp. They are the backbone of guard and hunt duties and are physically strongest so they do the heavy lifting as well.
I bet they (with a certain degree of justification) should see themselves as privileged and entitled for more - and even in the middle of the wilderness where everybody depends on them, they still become bottom of the rack. I see some unhappy orcs and some leadership challenges for Rick in the future.

and I agree that your post is loyal to Rick, but the way that camp treats Maya he is going to pay a political price for including her. He is also likely to pay a serious political price, for branding one of his own kind at the accusations of a human girl. "who first spread her legs and then cried rape, rape the day after".
I mean most of our characters are female so our characters are unlikely to see it like that, but I can totally see that version becoming increasingly popular.

[Imladir]

I would agree with Gilga. Cailin doesn't know anything about leadership though, so even if she said anything, it wouldn't be with that angle.
I think it was Simon and not Sim however.
And there's no way the small camp would accept Muhammad, there are four girls for two boys there. And even if there weren't, accepting Brok was one thing, accepting Muhammad would be completely different.

[Beta]

If agreed upon rules fall to the wayside in the name of political convenience, it will obviously be a notable turning point. The actual council discussion will require Aria to speak for Rick, I think.

That things may fall apart more I don't doubt -- but I don't think that inviting Maya to the deliberations was an irrevocable step in that direction.

[Imladir]

Well, it's a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation so...

[Mercy]

This is a great discussion and I want to hear from others as well. I am going afk for an hour or so, but will be back on. I would ask that we do not have Rick make a decision until I get a consensus from my group.

[Gilga]

Do the beaten up hunters have names?

[Imladir]

I don't think so.

[Mercy]

I am back online.

[Mercy]

Hmmm. I just read Gilga's post and am a bit confused. I think that there has been nothing but appreciation here for her efforts and she is definitely not taken for granted. I think the post is not accurate in that regard and would hope that neither Dana or Gilga really feels it is. She has lived with us a couple of days now and much effort has been made to make everyone in the smaller camp welcome as a valuable addition. At least that is my impression.

[Gilga]

This is her backstory, how she felt maturing with the cult.

[Mercy]

That is her past, yes. Now she has a future with people that respect and accept her. At least I hope she has a future here.

[Gilga]

I edited my post to include Dana in the conversation and have the conversation somewhere less public then the campfire, where the main camp is having a dinner party for Grok.

[Beta]

Two notes on Addie's last post (thanking Maya and talking branding)

- Fig is the survivor of the two boys who attempted rape on the first day.
- The rules council has never officially decided that Fig should be punished, I think, and it could be argued that his offense was before there were any rules. Addie obviously is not looking at it that way.

[Imladir]

It's the same for Muhamed in fact, unless I'm mistaken, I don't think they were made public before now.