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[adamu]

So if it's radiation, do we even know we're getting hit???

At least - in blissful ignorance - continue to restrain the thing...

Anyway, there are different types of radiation, including thermal and microwave, both of which can ignite flammables...

So many variables, and my character's well-being far too tied up in them for me to make any decisions on my own!

It'll be what it'll be...

[Imladir]

Immediate effects are burns similar to being exposed to extreme heat.

Plus the nausea. So yeah, I think you'll notice...

[adamu]

Well, I'll confess I can't guess what this thing does ruleswise.

Only spirit I could find with energy aura (radiation) was Nuclear Toxic in Street Grimoire.

Only description of energy aura (radiation) I could find was in Howling Shadows, which told me that instead of immediate damage the power acted as various levels of radiation environment (Harsh for direct contact).

So then I had to go to Run & Gun for that, but while horribly scary, it was also woefully non-specific.

So if you guys have a more concise rules definition of what this thing's energy aura does, point me to a reference, cuz my head is spinning with rules references!

[Imladir]

Energy aura, CRB p396. Anyone attacking the critter in melee takes Forcex2 AP-5 damage. Here, Force is 5, so DV10 AP-5.
It's a nuclear elemental attack, so Street Grimoire, p105:

Radiation attacks cause Physical damage. Armor provides no dice to resist Radiation damage, unless it has an upgrade to provide Radiation resistance, which provides dice equal to its rating for the Damage Resistance Test and the following Toxin Resistance Test. Treat every Radiation attack that hits as a toxin causing Nausea (see Toxins, p. 408, SR5) with a DV equal to net hits of the attack (before the Damage Resistance roll).

And finally, toxin attack, CRB, p408-409:

At the end of the appropriate Combat Turn, the victim makes a Toxin Resistance Test to see if the toxin takes effect. This test uses Body + Willpower + the rating of any protective gear/systems; each hit reduces the toxin’s Power by 1 point.

Nausea is a catch-all term; it includes pain, panic, vomiting, and double vision. If the Power of an attack after the Toxin Resistance Test exceeds the target’s Willpower, he is incapacitated (unable to take any actions) with vomiting and dizziness for 3 Combat Turns. Whether or not a character is incapacitated, Nausea doubles all of a character’s wound modifiers for ten minutes. A nauseated character with 3 boxes of damage (a –1 wound modifier), for example, suffers –2 dice on all tests instead.

[adamu]

Thanks!

I had missed that sidebar in Street Grimoire. And I note that it does specify the powers of toxic spirits.

Still, I think this contradicts the description specific to Energy Aura (radiation) in Howling Shadows, which is much less extreme...
Or maybe they just both apply, making it even more deadly!

I guess I'll find out!



I still think it was a pretty cool capture/subdual plan - aside from the fact that Raf had no idea about energy auras!
Hope I haven't led not only myself by half the kids in our group to a grisly death - but what a story hook!

[Imladir]

Much less extreme, much less extreme...
Sure, you don't get the nausea, but you carry the radiations for a while after that :o
And when she tries to heal you, Cailin will herself be irradiated...

I'm not sure I prefer the Howling Shadows rules you see (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Mercy]

So are we soaking against a DV10 with only body? Might need to pre-edge that roll, and it still will not be all that good. Wow! At least Maya has the Quick Healer quality so someone can get +2 dice to heal. We might be camped here for a bit while we heal, if we survive.

[Imladir]

Depends on the rules used. If Howling Shadows, no DV10 to soak but long term effects. If not, DV10+Nausea, but no long term effect.

[Mercy]

LOL Both seem to be not good.

[Aria]

Heh, I wasn't the one who introduced the toxic! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif)

For now the effect is fluff...but based on Howling Shadows

"Radiation works somewhat differently than other elemental
effects. Coming into contact with a critter with
Energy Aura (Radiation) is the same as coming into contact
with a Harsh radiation environment. The radiation
levels drop off the farther away you get: Moderate within
10 meters and Mild within 20 meters. The critter also
leaves areas of Mild radiation wherever it goes which
dissipate ten minutes after the critter moves on. More
information on radiation environments can be found on
p. 152, Run & Gun."

So that's pretty much the entire group within spitting distance of Rick! The game may or may not last long enough for it to be an issue (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif)

[Mercy]

So is there any specific effect to any of us at this time?

[Beta]

HARSH
Harsh radiation environments are exactly that: harsh.
This is the control room after a meltdown where the
engineers bravely work to keep the whole place from
going boom, knowing full well they aren’t going to make
it. This is the unshielded dirty bomb on it’s way to the
target with its cadre of faithful terrorists in tow who fight
to the death because they know they are dead anyway.
At this point the hazard moves beyond nausea and
into more serious, immediate hazards. These radiation
levels can kill in ten hours and debilitate in as little as six.
This amount of radiation also seeps in quickly. Anyone
exposed to this level of radiation carries a Mild Environment
around with them for 24 hours after; anyone within
ten meters of the character should be treated as if they
are in a Mild radiation environment.

So then

MILD
Mild radiation environments don’t look like much. Maybe
that’s because radiation is invisible but also because
these are the kinds of places that everyone moves out
of because something nasty happened there in the
recent (on a radioactive decay scale) past. Meltdown
sites long after the meltdown, detonation sites far past
the detonation, or sites where radioactive waste had
been buried or stored but sprang leaks. These are the
kinds of places no one wants to stay for any period of
time due to the history as much as the damage it’s doing
to their cell structure.
Like other mild environments the average metahuman
will be fine here for a half a day or so but they’ll start
feeling effects around twenty-four hours or so, as the
radiation makes them experience Nausea (p. 409, SR5)
at Power 2. The Power of the Nausea then increases by 1
every twelve hours.

And of note:

HEALING RADIATION
AND POLLUTION DAMAGE
No Healing Tests can occur while a character is still exposed
to a radioactive or polluted environment, including
the radioactive environment a character may be
generating themselves. Magical healing can occur, but
remember it requires contact and therefore puts the
healing magician into the character’s radiation zone.

So.... it doesn't say anything about immediate damage from the harsh radiation. Bizarrely it quantifies the nausea on Mild and Medium, but not at harsh.

[Mercy]

So, since we are all in the harsh zone right now and do not even know it yet, we are going to die horrible deaths? At what point do we realize it and can move away?

[Beta]

In the Pierre post that I just put up, I suggested that to Pierre's thermographic vision, Rick looked warm. I figured that radiation intense enough to irradiate other objects after brief contact had to be pretty strong, and could both be causing Rick to literally heat up, but also to be warming up the air around him a bit (which Pierre was interpreting as heat rising off of Rick).

Now, there is nothing in the rules, that I can recall, about thermographic vision letting you see intense radiation sources. And ionizing radiation does most of its damage by creation of free radicals rather than by cooking things, so I'm willing to back-track on this if people think this isn't appropriate. (can edit the post, or just not follow up on that comment -- and I stopped before Pierre got to talking with people in the camp, so he's not passed along that observation yet)

[Gilga]

I think these are good news, instead of dying in 6 seconds from physical damage you are exposed to something that kills you in a few hours. You'll notice it when you start getting sick.

[adamu]

In last line of my IC post I assume that with the change back to Rick, the energy aura stops and the heat normalizes...

But let me know if that's wrong, as I suppose it could indicate a ruse on the part of the bad guy...

[Gilga]

I think that the sensible thing is to just knock him unconscious by lynching him. Now that he is in the tent there are many people that would love to kick him senselessly. When he wakes up the spirit will be disrupted and Rick will be free, it also suit RP wise, think terrified kids and political enemies. Also perhaps one of the orcs will make a move for his monowhip - to become the new alpha male, or to stop needing to take Rick's orders. Just suggestions though.

[Beta]

I think that the sensible thing is to just knock him unconscious by lynching him. Now that he is in the tent there are many people that would love to kick him senselessly. When he wakes up the spirit will be disrupted and Rick will be free, it also suit RP wise, think terrified kids and political enemies. Also perhaps one of the orcs will make a move for his monowhip - to become the new alpha male, or to stop needing to take Rick's orders. Just suggestions though.

I think his mono-whip was 'ware, so not so easily taken as all that. Not to say that if Rick dies, someone might not try cutting off his finger and figuring out if they can use that as a handle for the whip, but it sure wouldn't be an easy thing to grab. (at least, none of the rest of us came with any gear that wasn't 'ware or tatoos, and I can easily imagine a gang leader getting a mono-whip installed -- great shock and awe factor!)

[Gilga]

I think it is usually stored in the fingertip rather than installed as ware.

[Beta]

I think it is usually stored in the fingertip rather than installed as ware.

My impression was that the one end was attached to the finger (with the fingertip being the weight at the other end) -- rather than being something that you took out (complete with handle), then grasped the handle.. But I admit that this is impression, not sure that I could point to anything written as such.

[Aria]

My impression was that the one end was attached to the finger (with the fingertip being the weight at the other end) -- rather than being something that you took out (complete with handle), then grasped the handle.. But I admit that this is impression, not sure that I could point to anything written as such.

That's my thought...the spool is probably somewhere in the cyberhand itself too, so you would need to take the whole hand...and then get a wifi connection to it too if you want the 'safety' of using that function

[Gilga]

Well Rick is back from possessed before he is knocked out so we can remain civilized rather than a horror movie with a monowhip attached to a hand.

[Beta]

Everything that Pierre said about hair, washing, & vomiting is correct decontamination procedure as best I understand it, but the rules really don't cover decontamination, so mechanically there are no bonuses for any of that. And it really may or may not be needed for the dosage that people had -- as he said, he has Physics knowledge (and Seraphim Lore, which is where I was figuring he might know something about decontamination), but no medicine or biology knowledge.

[Imladir]

My fellow radiated people, all is not lost!
There is a spell in Shadow Spells that treats radiations (and at F-4, I wouldn't get drain, so I could use it a bunch of times).

Cailin has a mentor spirit who can teach it to her, collected some reagents so she can set a temporary lodge up.
For the learning roll, I got Learn Spell: Decontamination: 13d6h5 3
Which means it theoretically takes Cailin 3 days to learn.

I didn't take any Instruction bonus from my mentor spirit though, which could reasonably give me 2 more successes I think. With that, the spell would be learned in a bit less than a day. Would that be alright with you Aria?

As for you radiated people, try not to die in the next 24h ^^

[Aria]

Yes absolutely fine...for most of you anyway...see the IC for Rick (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)