Into the Chaos (OOC) Options

[Mulcarn]

I guess I'll be the first to say - Welcome Overkill!

[Kuirem]

Didn't even knew we were having a new players I thought we were close to the end (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Welcome

[Gilga]

An end is a new beggining no (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Welcome abroad.

[Imladir]

Note that when Nyx sends a message to the Team, that includes Iris and Ayato (but not Maxwell), as no one told her about Ayato / Iris being involved.
Or that Maxwell had been found, which is why he's not included.

[Ennui]

So did we get anything for the farm job? I remember there was karma but not how much. Thanms.

[Imladir]

Money 21k (for now), it came from selling pixies to the vampires.
Karma... It was 5 think? I may be wrong, I didn't put them down...

[Gilga]

I think that I awarded you 21 karma so far, and yes 21k each for selling sapient critters to be eaten by vampires.

[Imladir]

Except that they weren't sapient, since they don't even have a mind (or have never been awake, which is kind of the same).

[Gilga]

Heavily influenced by the matrix - at chipped shortly after birth and their personality is completely artificial.

[Kuirem]

21 karma is what I noted as well.

[Ennui]

I will give Slim a call then to see about a coyote to cross over. If nothing else I can hike a mile or two and have my car meet me on the other side of the border.

[Gilga]

Is anyone waiting on me?

[Ennui]

Your okay with the way I'm getting back mostly. I don't know how much you want to do it or if I need to

[Gilga]

Well you need a Coyote to get back and the car won't cross without you. (You do have a link of a Coyote left by Ayato). If you cross the border without one you are taking a risk, security is stricter for things going out of Seattle then going in - but you might encounter border guards from both countries.

[Ennui]

Can slim find me one or am I hiking?

[Gilga]

Slim can find you one, but it'll take a few days to arrange a crossing.

[Jack_Spade]

How exactly did Irris cross the border in the first place? Can't she just reverse the course she took?


Oh, and could it be that Nyx neglected to discuss a salary for the team's efforts with the Finnegans?

[Imladir]

What efforts? Everything done up to now still comes under the heading of securing the farm, no reasons to get more than what was negotiated in the first place.

[Gilga]

Some OOC considerations.

The farm run is almost finished, the last scene I anticipate is negotiation and perhaps another scene after that when your payment is negotiated as well as the Finnigans asking you to keep a low profile until the legal stuff is finished. Nyx will have another chance to sweeten your share at the negotiation table.

Hoping that it'll give you about a month of downtime. We previously went too fast, so I want to take it slower this time. You will be asked for the Finnigans to stay out of sight until the legal stuff is finalized - it does not mean that we will not play - but this will be to round your characters develop relationships and not a strictly paying run.
(Aside from the vampire pack thing).

[Gilga]

How exactly did Irris cross the border in the first place? Can't she just reverse the course she took?


Oh, and could it be that Nyx neglected to discuss a salary for the team's efforts with the Finnegans?

Jack, Irris:
Ayato used the same Coyote he sends Irris - he did not want to kill her but wanted her gone for a while. Once she is out of the trunk, Irris will find that the car also has 'other' stuff which is not hers. Specifically, it is filled with Cigarettes.

[Jack_Spade]

What efforts? Everything done up to now still comes under the heading of securing the farm, no reasons to get more than what was negotiated in the first place.

No. Securing the farm by force was the first deal. Getting a mage to run it was a whole separate one.

[Imladir]

You chose to consider it as one, but by having a mage run it, the profits increase, so mechanically (since we're paid a percentage of the deal), our payment increases too. So it can also be considered as being the continuation of the first deal.

[Gilga]

Well, I don't want to get into that discussion as it is water under the bridge - but I got the impression that it was in your best interest - or at least you did not negotiate due to internal friction in the group. Which caused Casa to approach Nyx directly rather them the group... Nyx made voices of leaving - and Casa buttered her into staying so that things won't go south. So, I do agree that with less internal friction you could get more out of it. It is part of the game though - having runners that are difficult to work with. I did plan that getting Strawberry would increase your revenue for the run.
At any case, the negotiation scene is the last one I planned strictly for the farm run. If Strawberry runs it or buy it your revenue would be higher.

I hope it sheds some light on this issue and as Strawberry is already seating there negotiating - you cannot now ask for a separate compensation for that gig.

[Jack_Spade]

I took the liberty of digging up the original post with the mission statement by Casa:

"The jobs has two crucial parts. We need a recorded evidence of human traffiking - this means that we need to record the actual sell event of a pixie and record both the pixie changing hands and the money changing hands. Second, we need to take over the farm." http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index....64338#msg464338

That is all that we agreed on to do - and which we did. In exchange we were supposed to get 27% of the earnings of the farm.

Now that Strawberry has declared that she will only take care of the farm if she is allowed to buy it outright, we not only lose our longterm investment, but also risk getting shafted on the sale, because I doubt she'll have a few spare millions lying around to pay the worth of the property alone.

[Gilga]

No argument there - you did not agree to enrich Valentina's Finnigan branch with a powerful street mage. Nyx had a wiggle room there before she did that. I completely agree with that observation - you were compelled to do so because you wanted to increase the worth of the farm. It would be up for Nyx to decide - and she can consult with the rest ofc.
Either you get 27% of the earning from new buyer - (some sort of a trust fund).
Or given your poor relationship toward the buyer - perhaps you can get a cashout and be off your way.

These negotiations with the Finnigans and possibly with Strawberry would conclude this episode.