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post May 18 2004, 03:01 AM
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I keep seeing all these threads about how strong your munch-fu is.

So I ask you, can your munch-fu handle restrictions?

I shall return tomorrow and post several munchkins, designed solely from the rules in SR3.

Defeat me if you can.
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post May 18 2004, 03:07 AM
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Uh, wouldn't it of just made more sense to skip your post then if you're not actually doing anything until tomorrow? :?
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post May 18 2004, 03:09 AM
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I want people to start preparing, most of them haven't read SR3 in ages.
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post May 18 2004, 03:11 AM
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Hmmm. Since munchkins are players, not characters, I'm hard pressed to find the rules for creating munchkins in SR3.

But, OK, I'll post a munchkin. He's a white male, 14 years old (birthday next week), with red hair. He's thin because his height jumped several inches last year. He uses blue dice, and the color pages in his SR3 book have fallen out. As far as restrictions go, he's grounded for two weeks. No TV, no recreational computer use, and his phone use is limited to 5 minutes a day during this period. ;)
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post May 18 2004, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE (BGMFH)
I want people to start preparing, most of them haven't read SR3 in ages.
OK, I'll read SR3 again tonight to get ready. I'm looking forward to this.
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post May 18 2004, 03:24 AM
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Dont expect to be surprised, the whole idea youre trying to address is looking for the best in a given set of circumstances. Changing the circumstances doesnt alter the goal...
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post May 18 2004, 03:37 AM
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But it does test the adaptability of those who look for the numerical best. After all, most people munching are used to free reign across all canon material, or such is my understanding of the, ahm, art.
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post May 18 2004, 03:40 AM
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QUOTE (Arethusa)
But it does test the adaptability of those who look for the numerical best. After all, most people munching are used to free reign across all canon material, or such is my understanding of the, ahm, art.

I didn't know you could put a disclaimer in your sig. Or use it as a "zing."

Hmmmm....
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post May 18 2004, 04:32 AM
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Heh, I consider it a badge of pride. :)

I await your munchkins, sir. :D
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post May 18 2004, 05:09 AM
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QUOTE (Arethusa)
But it does test the adaptability of those who look for the numerical best. After all, most people munching are used to free reign across all canon material, or such is my understanding of the, ahm, art.

I think this restriction just makes it easier. There are far fewer options to consider.

Plus there's the old face-who-takes-all-of-the-ultra-munched-characters-as-level-3-contacts. He's always been the most powerful, and limiting things to SR3 doesn't force any fundamental changes from him :)
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post May 18 2004, 05:10 AM
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Weren't you one of the people bitching when I created him? :)
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post May 18 2004, 05:20 AM
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I don't remember anyone creating him, I thought it was just one of those things people say on create-a-munchkin threads. "Oh yeah? I take that guy as my level 3 contact!" It's kind of a cop-out, so I'm not surprised if I bitched about you actually building one even if I don't remember. :P

It is the most powerful character though, to be sure :)
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post May 18 2004, 05:23 AM
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And don't forget the old "I take the million, buy a permanent High Lifestyle, and retire. Ha!" Boring. I can buy a permanent squatter lifestyle for only 10,000 :nuyen: , then buy a lot of cyberware and stuff. What's cooler, some boring Joe Average living a permanent High Lifestyle, or some twitchy, hyper, paranoid, wretched ex-sammie living in a cardboard box, eating out of a dumpster, and shooting devil rats with his Ares Alpha? :cyber:
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post May 18 2004, 05:30 AM
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You've got to admit that the improvement to that one is clever, though. Digestive expansion, a permanent high lifestyle, and a :nuyen: 120,000 porche ;)
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post May 18 2004, 05:33 AM
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:rotfl:
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post May 18 2004, 05:36 AM
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QUOTE (Zazen)
You've got to admit that the improvement to that one is clever, though. Digestive expansion, a permanent high lifestyle, and a :nuyen: 120,000 porche

¥119,500 Porsche and some clothes.

~J
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post May 18 2004, 05:44 AM
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Bah, when you have a High lifestyle you don't *need* clothes. :D
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post May 18 2004, 06:15 AM
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I bought three permanent street lifestyles from the vendor at the local soycaf outlet. At least, that's what he said they were. ;)
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post May 18 2004, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ May 18 2004, 12:44 AM)
Bah, when you have a High lifestyle you don't *need* clothes. :D

I can only imagine a troll's cost of constantly having to shell out for other people's replacement eyes after constant accidents involving eye level and excitement.

...say, there isn't a story behind your screenname, is there?
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post May 18 2004, 12:09 PM
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I'm always prepared for Canon. Can you Canon munch better than me?
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post May 23 2004, 05:48 AM
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The trouble with this thread is, "munch a character" can mean different things. I tend to min-max, meaning I make a character who is great at his specialty, but don't sacrifice a character's other abilities to get one piddly extra die for it. A true munchkin, though, will do things like spend his 5 last skill points on one more weapon skill, when Etiquette: 2 and Stealth: 3 would be far more useful to the character, or take so much Body-boosting 'ware for his tank that he can't afford any reflex-enhancing 'ware, or give that troll adept with improved polearms: 6 no ranged attacks whatsoever.

So "munch" can mean either a tough, useful character, or a cheesy one-trick pony who is unlikely to be approved by the GM, or to make it past one gaming session alive if he is.
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post May 23 2004, 06:15 AM
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My character didn't have any ranged attacks at character creation. Unarmed at 6 and edged weapons at 6. Both improved with adept powers. That doesn't automotically make him a munchkin because it fits with his personality and the kind of character i wanted him to be.
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post May 23 2004, 11:44 AM
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I didn't mean to overgeneralize. Not every character who has a glaring weakness is a munchkin. The difference is, you made a character that you knew had a limitation, motivated by your character's history/personality. A munchkin creates a limited character out of short-sighted number-crunching.
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post May 23 2004, 03:36 PM
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A troll street samurai with....

Obvious cyberskull
The best reaction enhancement cyberware he can get his hands on
Adrenaline Pump
Hyper-thyroid Gland
Vindictive Flaw
Aptitude Edge ( Heavy weapons )
charisma of 1
Not a single social skill at all

who insists on....

Taking his heavy weapons everywhere he goes
Wearing Heavy armor on all occassions
Always bringing with him his dikoted polearm

who wonders....

why the group won't take him to any johnson meets?
why he can't go in any public area outside of the barrens without Lone Star calling up a tactical strike team with magic support?
why do people always run screaming from him?

Whose life quest is....

To find a corporate sponsor to make him into a cyber-zombie
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post May 23 2004, 04:40 PM
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the scary thing is i know someone who plays a character like that, minus the skull, but yeah, he wanders around going i like guns, it scares me greatly, oh yeah, did i metion that he has shot the pupet that our mage was using (control actions).
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