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[Necrogigas]

I back!

How was the trip?

[pbangarth]

Days and days of unlimited drinks and food, and grandchildren crawling all over me. Yeah!

It rained a lot, which was a bummer for the tourists, but the locals were glad for the break from a couple of months of drought. I've often said that because of my preference for warmer weather, I should have been born in the Caribbean rather than Canada. Within hours the heat and humidity felt perfectly normal to me.

It took me two days at home to re-acclimatize to weather here.

But the air was clear in Jamaica. As our return flight dropped through the clouds to the airport in Toronto, reddish brown haze appeared. It looked like The Apocalypse. Same is happening in the States I hear. And, of course, Blame Canada is back in many American minds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

[pbangarth]

Are we still here?

[pbangarth]

We are!

[pbangarth]

OK! So :

Torley is held captive by the Guards.

Starlet is being blown to Kingdom Come.

O'Connor is trapped in the kitchen with a mischievous spirit.

All is well in Lagos!

[Necrogigas]

Happy 4th. *Firework emoji*

[farothel]

25S will take me out and most likely kill me, even with the 12 extra armour. With those I have 26 armour, but I have to roll while the 25S is straight damage.

Just rolled:
armour roll: 26d6t5 6

that's 19S coming in, which will fill my stun track and my wound track completely (I still had 2 stun from drain that I didn't heal yet as one has to rest), killing me. I think you overdid it a bit here Crossbow. 25 is very much.

[pbangarth]

25S will take me out and most likely kill me, even with the 12 extra armour. With those I have 26 armour, but I have to roll while the 25S is straight damage.

Just rolled:
armour roll: 26d6t5 6

that's 19S coming in, which will fill my stun track and my wound track completely (I still had 2 stun from drain that I didn't heal yet as one has to rest), killing me. I think you overdid it a bit here Crossbow. 25 is very much.

This looks like a good time to use Edge. Do you have any left?

EDIT: Hey. Doesn't distance also reduce the damage value?

[farothel]

This looks like a good time to use Edge. Do you have any left?

EDIT: Hey. Doesn't distance also reduce the damage value?

I have edge, yes.

And it does with grenades, so I guess it also does with explosions.

[pbangarth]

I have edge, yes.

And it does with grenades, so I guess it also does with explosions.

Ok, so Crossbow, is there any distance modifier to the damage value?

And farothel, you could reroll the misses with a point of Edge. Even if there is no distance modifier to the damage value, you would get to roll the 20 misses over, giving you, on average, 6 or more hits. 19 down to 13 might mean survival.

[Crossbow]

I figured it would hurt, wasn't trying to kill her. Average roll on 26 dice is just under 9 hits.

Being down range of a beaching charge is not meant to be a happy fun time. But I think I did the calculations correctly. It was 30 dv charge to make a 2 meter hole. Does anyone have a different read of the RAW?

[pbangarth]

I figured it would hurt, wasn't trying to kill her. Average roll on 26 dice is just under 9 hits.

Being down range of a beaching charge is not meant to be a happy fun time. But I think I did the calculations correctly. It was 30 dv charge to make a 2 meter hole. Does anyone have a different read of the RAW?

1) I didn't realize the soldiers were inside the compound. If not, then an outside wall probably is stronger. But let's go with the inside for now.

2) No way I want to work through the explosives vs. barriers stuff in the BBB and Arsenal. So let's go with the 30DV. And distance was included to bring this down to 25S DV.

3) Post #833 in the IC thread describes the walls as "thick stone walls" muffling the sound. If they are thick stone walls "all around them", then the armour rating as per the Barrier Rating Table on pg. 166 of SR4A should be more than 6, as that is for "hardwood, dataterm, lightpost, chain link". I would think thick stone is at least similar to brick, which has an armour rating of 12. Two of those would add 24 to Starlets armour, not 12. Not sure if the second wall would require a second breach attempt.

3) So, my suggestion is that Starlet and Silence get +24 armour on a 25S DV attack. This would give Starlet 38 armour dice.

4) And for Heaven's sake, if this isn't a time to use Edge, I don't know when is.

Here's a sample damage resistance:

38 dice, target 5: average hits is 12+
Edge to reroll misses -- 26 dice, target 5: average hits is 8+

So Starlet would take 5S or less damage. Nasty, but not death!

[Crossbow]

1) I didn't realize the soldiers were inside the compound. If not, then an outside wall probably is stronger. But let's go with the inside for now.

The soldiers are not inside the compound, that is why they made a door into the building. The internal walls are what is giving her protection from the effects of the blast.

2) No way I want to work through the explosives vs. barriers stuff in the BBB and Arsenal. So let's go with the 30DV. And distance was included to bring this down to 25S DV.

I didn't know that Arsenal had rules on barriers and explosives, I will look at those. I made a GM call to change the damage to stun because I figured the shrapnel wouldn't make it through the walls, just the pressure wave.

3) Post #833 in the IC thread describes the walls as "thick stone walls" muffling the sound. If they are thick stone walls "all around them", then the armour rating as per the Barrier Rating Table on pg. 166 of SR4A should be more than 6, as that is for "hardwood, dataterm, lightpost, chain link". I would think thick stone is at least similar to brick, which has an armour rating of 12. Two of those would add 24 to Starlets armour, not 12. Not sure if the second wall would require a second breach attempt.

One outer wall, at the end of the hallway, creating a 2 meter hole, that was the intention of the charge.

3) So, my suggestion is that Starlet and Silence get +24 armour on a 25S DV attack. This would give Starlet 38 armour dice.

4) And for Heaven's sake, if this isn't a time to use Edge, I don't know when is.

I am fine with this adjustment, thanks for the correction.

[pbangarth]

Let me know what you want me to roll if Torley has any chance at all at his escape attempt.

[farothel]

so I've added 12 more dice: resist damage: 12d6t5 6
and using edge to reroll all misses
resist damage: 26d6t5 6

So that's 18 successes, leaving 25S to 7S, which I can take (although I'm at -3 at the moment).

I'm away from my books, but does the healing spell allow healing of Stun damage? Or only physical?

[Crossbow]

The Heal can only work on Physical, which, if you would rather, you can take the damage as physical, since that was my caveat and I can withdraw it if you like. Regardless, Spellcasting + Willpower (2) Test to avoid dropping each sustained spell.

[pbangarth]

Oh, God. I'm gonna get Torley killed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

[Crossbow]

You guys are out of rounds at the moment, at least until you decide to get shot at again.

[Necrogigas]

Anyone got any clever ideas to push Con's side quest forward? Three hits on a pool of six is probably the best I'm going to get. I don't think Perception is going to be the solution.

[pbangarth]

Unfortunately, poor Con is the least capable of the crew present to find an item that is probably magical. I say probably, because there might simply be a piece of paper or item that has the secret name of the spirit on it. Find that, and the spirit will likely want it destroyed post-haste. The REE-CI-PEE might also be an incantation to break whatever hold this place has on the spirit.

If that does free the spirit, it may be grateful enough to give a hand to Con. I don't know, but it sure looks like the team could use some help.

It may be time to just ransack the kitchen, ripping/tossing/opening everything till Con or the spirit itself sees what it wants. If you could get Starlet and Silence to Con, they might be able to give him some help in this side-item-in-the-midst-of-a-firefight.

Or it's just fucking with Con and is having a great time jerking him around.

I'll do what I can with Torley to misdirect the Guards, but Torley is ... lacking a certain amount of leverage at the moment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)

[Necrogigas]

Unfortunately, poor Con is the least capable of the crew present to find an item that is probably magical.

It's worse than that. O'Connor is taking the spirit completely at face value, and is running off the assumption that the spirit was tasked with stealing the secret family recipes.

It may be time to just ransack the kitchen, ripping/tossing/opening everything till Con or the spirit itself sees what it wants.

The spirit doesn't know what it is looking for, that's why it's stuck there.

Or it's just fucking with Con and is having a great time jerking him around.

I've been worried about that since deciding to go down this rabbit hole. Crossbow gave me a free judge intentions check that told me LBD is on the up-n-up. It was a behind the screen roll, so I don't know if Con judged the situation correctly.
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I'm thinking the ledger might be some kind of code book. O'Connor has a 3 Logic, and no skills or knowledge that's applicable. He's at a -2 condition modifier and the defaulting penalty gives him a pool of 0. He's not the guy for puzzles.

[pbangarth]

Suuuure. Give me a PC with Thrill Seeker. I can handle that. No problem. Zip tied and up against a wall? No problem.

[pbangarth]

Clever call on the safe being a delay, farothel.

[pbangarth]

Sure would be nice to get the *$$*&% out of Lagos. Just sayin'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Necrogigas]

Well that just happened. Who could have foreseen engaging with the chaos gremlin would bite O'Connor in the ass? Real curious to see if LBD just knocked him out or is going to kidnap him.