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> What stats would you give depleted uranium lacing, Less strength but about 5 times denser,.
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post May 19 2004, 05:55 AM
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...then titanium. Probably no balistic and some impact, and a bigger thump when unarmed.
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post May 19 2004, 06:21 AM
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Bad idea. Really bad. The method of inserting the stuff into your body might release quite a bit of radiation. If it breaks at all, which it probably does within a body even without getting shot, the tiny particles in your blood flow will continuously radiate you. I'm pretty sure it radiates tiny amounts regardless, which is quite likely to lead to serious health problems.

Plus it's a heavy metal. You could get uranium poisoning, like you can get lead or mercury poisoning.

I'm not sure whether tungsten would work better. That might just be an overall "better" version of Titanium Bone Lacing, since it's harder and heavier than titanium. Should also have an increased Essence rating, though. And if tungsten in your body is a health risk, you can forget about that one as well.
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post May 19 2004, 06:31 AM
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Yeah, I second that. This is just an awful idea. If the low levels of radiation don't get you, the heavy metal poisoning will. You might as well suggest arsenic bone lacing while you're at it. As for tungsten, I'd be concerned about potential blood poisoning and leukemia, though some research suggests it's either inert or fairly inert. Other research suggests that it can kill you. Nothing conclusive so far.

Me, I just want some molybdenum bone lacing. Oh yeah.
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post May 19 2004, 06:52 AM
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depleted uranium is not so strong as it is heavy. also when it comes to an impact there is a large incendiary effect. so imagine some bullet hitting your bone and causing you to burst into flame rather than just break your bone.
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post May 19 2004, 07:01 AM
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It is incindiary with high friction, but I doubt small arms fire is enough to cause it to ignite, and moreso if it's had to travel through flesh to get there. Still, even if it doesn't burn you alive from the inside out, I'm pretty sure the cancer and blood poisoning and bone deformation are enough to make this one bad fucking idea.
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post May 19 2004, 07:27 AM
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You can turn into cyberzombie and then use depleted uranium lacing.
No worries about blood poisoning and stuff. Maybe just higher chance to die of cancer?

Note - most probably no PC can play cyberzombie good enough. With all those collapsing memories, replay and other things.
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post May 19 2004, 08:00 AM
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I think it's an awesome idea. There's already 'ware that turns you into a vegetable within a year or two, why not one that gives you heavy metal poisoning?

If you've already got Lead Bone Lacing, you may as well upgrade ;)
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post May 19 2004, 08:21 AM
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hey that would go great with the borrowed time edge. Although payingoff the edge would have to remove the lacing
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post May 19 2004, 08:39 AM
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Cutter I suggest you try it and get back to us. :please:
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post May 19 2004, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE (cutter07)
...then titanium. Probably no balistic and some impact, and a bigger thump when unarmed.

The other posters have pretty much summed up the risks. DU is weakly radioactive (it's hard to find a less radioactive isotope than U-238, but in the body...) and it's about as toxic as lead.

It's also not particularly strong or tough. It does have the advantage of density so, as you said, there wouldn't be much in the way of armor bonuses. What you might get is a really expensive form of a club built into your body with your now-heavier bones.

I'd recommend just using a club or titanium bonelacing.
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post May 19 2004, 11:43 AM
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On the other hand, bones from Orichalcum (not looking at cost)...
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post May 19 2004, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (Traks)
On the other hand, bones from Orichalcum (not looking at cost)...

Now that would be interesting, just to make a "Level Boss" NPC opponent for one of the magically oriented nations, like the Tirs.
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post May 19 2004, 03:42 PM
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Hmm, each bone as a seperate foci. Try and seperate this guy from his magic augmentation!
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post May 19 2004, 04:51 PM
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Do you think you could di-kote the orichalcum before it was implanted? :D
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post May 19 2004, 05:08 PM
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I say skip the time-consuming cancer and blood poisoning and just skip straight to the Francium lacing :noflame:
It's a pun, ask someone who knows their chemistry :proof:
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post May 19 2004, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (Cray74)
It's also not particularly strong or tough. It does have the advantage of density so, as you said, there wouldn't be much in the way of armor bonuses. What you might get is a really expensive form of a club built into your body with your now-heavier bones.

I'd recommend just using a club or titanium bonelacing.

Or get it and have the troll or giant character use you as a club. Canon Companion has some stats for using metahuman bodies as a weapon.... ;)
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post May 19 2004, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (sidartha)
just skip straight to the Francium lacing :noflame:

Why? Cesium works well enough and actually retains it's element type long enough to react. Francium tends to decay before it can react with anything.
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post May 19 2004, 06:04 PM
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True, but isn't cesium liquid at room temperature? Is that suitable for lacing?
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post May 19 2004, 06:17 PM
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Pretty sure it's solid at room temp... until it hits water, of course.

DU bones would be only somewhat harmful do to radiation, but the poisoning effect would be a killer... literally.

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post May 19 2004, 06:21 PM
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Well, back in my day we had Magnesium+Potassium bone lacing in our diving characters. We called them "newbies."
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post May 19 2004, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (JaronK)
DU bones would be only somewhat harmful do to radiation, but the poisoning effect would be a killer... literally.

Eventually, after several years or more. How fast is lead poisoning?
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post May 19 2004, 07:30 PM
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it's not so much the dead part of lead poisoning that would take you out pretty fast, it's the Crazy :silly: part... then the dead part.

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post May 19 2004, 07:35 PM
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*Idle Speculation*
Under normal circumstances (lead pipes, lead based paint etc.)I dont think that it would be an exceptionally quick death, but think of how much of your body would be in contact with the lead/DU bones. Im no doctor but I think virtually all of your major organs would be in contact with this stuff. That cant be healthy.
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post May 19 2004, 07:35 PM
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The radiation would just cause cancer. That much lead in your system would cause almost instant shock... the person in question would be dead within a day I'd guess. If it were somehow made to leak slowly, instead, they might last up to a month or so. Meanwhile, they would become rapidly retarded, suffering massive brain damage. Also, DU is heavy, but not strong, so it would encumber the hell out of them for little benifit. If I were making game rules for it, I'd go with

-5 essence, +60kg weight, +1 Body, Same damage dealt as titanium, roll a d6 each day, on a 1 you're dead.

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post May 19 2004, 07:59 PM
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Ok, so stuff like DU or Lead don't work, but are there any other materials that anyone has played around with for Bone Lacing?
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