Salted Wounds [OOC], a Deep Black Sea game Options

[Jack_Spade]

Assault is no angel - he has been violent, mainly before losing several limbs - although he has so far not murdered anyone (not counting combat in war). By the way: His mission was not to kill Kerstin but to catch her (that's the main reason she escaped, since he didn't shoot at her while not having the right ammunition loaded)
There is no sign of a special personal code, but in general he thinks of himself as a man of his word.
He does not have anger issues and right now feels mainly disbelieve as he is still in shock.

[Volker]

sorry for my absence. Decembre was hell.

[Jack_Spade]

No problem.

Just a question: Why do you all think that Assault purposefully killed Battery?

From his perspective his friend had just been executed with a shot to the head.

[Gilga]

Well, we might have been able to revive Battery without his fragmentation Grenade.

[Thanee]

Technically, he did. But we can hardly know that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Well, it's Shadowrun. It is hardly realistic. Assault took like half a dozen sniper rounds at point blank range and was still moving. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Bye
Thanee

[Volker]

No problem.

Just a question: Why do you all think that Assault purposefully killed Battery?

From his perspective his friend had just been executed with a shot to the head.

Good point. That was actually a roleplaying mistake from my side. Thanks for pointing that out. I actually thought he did it to prevent him from getting captured, same way he attempted to kill himself.

After a stifled snort of a chuckle, Sharkboy managed the rare moment that someone was more blunt than bnc.

@Team.>> What a bunch of drek, Anna. You don't carry that hand-cannon to tickle people. Our lives are worth more than your fake code of honor.

Knock him back out and find a place to dump him. >>

Wotcha! BAM! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Thanee]

Can we figure out, that he has a Pain Editor?

I would think you notice that if someone gets hit by multiple high-caliber rounds does not feel anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Bye
Thanee

[Volker]

bnc had a direct connection to it. She could virtually see the thing.

[Thanee]

Bioware?

Bye
Thanee

[Jack_Spade]

Jupp, no easy way to hack it, but a bio-monitor can figure it out (also you can use medicine to make someone pass out even with a pain editor)
His arms and legs are hacked at the moment, so he can't really fight back.

[Volker]

Oh, darn, good point. It says in the rules that the pain editor can be switched on and off. How does that work?

How can I make someone pass out with Medicine?

[Luckace]

Con: 13d6t5 3
Oh well...
Is the con roll for the threat itself or more for the precision of my probe? So to say, if I notice that he's not reacting the way I want him to, can I still threat him/his mother the common face-to-face way?

sick bastard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The crow calls the raven black, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Thanee]

Oh, darn, good point. It says in the rules that the pain editor can be switched on and off. How does that work?

Some trained muscle reflex, I suppose.

Bye
Thanee

[Jack_Spade]

That's alright - It's to see how well you can describe to him what you see so he is forced to actively think about that particular memory.

But could you explain why you want him to associate his mother with Dr. Johann?

@Volker
If you go to sleep you aren't taking a full stun track everytime, do you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Stands to reason if you can induce normal sleep you aren't doing damage to the person

[Luckace]

OK, great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It's not meant to associate Johann with his mother per se, perhaps that got off confusing:
I want him to associate meeting Johann with losing his mother, as to show him that by meeting Johann again, he endangers the one person he holds dear.
Basically, as assault is aware of what I'm probing for, I thought I could show him a simple cause-effect-relationship by probing first for his mom's livelihood (to show him that I could find her), some happy memories blabla, and then by digging up "contacting Johann", followed immediately by " you're gonna lose your mother". Those are the two impressions I want to connect.
My goal is to scare him off ever cooperating with Johann again (most likely followed by some actual talk in the next rounds, but I'm thinking teamwork-rolls for that) by using his mother as a leverage, or at least by making him think we'd use his mother as a leverage (wraith is not quite evil enough to kill an old lady just for revenge).

[Gilga]

Can't you just openly threat him?

Why do we need all this sophistication? I'd make it a more specific threat that we can enforce. If you make us more troubles, you better watch your mother. Or something like that.

Also, Jack, isn't a medic kit enough to sedate him?

[Volker]

The crow calls the raven black, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

More like a grey goose. Oh darn, they don't exist!!

@Volker
If you go to sleep you aren't taking a full stun track everytime, do you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Stands to reason if you can induce normal sleep you aren't doing damage to the person

I guess... I just didn't know, medicine can induce normal sleep. But if you say so, I won't contradict you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) At the end, I want the 2 karma points I spent into medicine to pay off some day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Can't you just openly threat him?

Why do we need all this sophistication? I'd make it a more specific threat that we can enforce. If you make us more troubles, you better watch your mother. Or something like that.

Also, Jack, isn't a medic kit enough to sedate him?

Because classical condition works way stronger than an abstract cause-effect-relation that's only cognitively present. We don't want him to reflect the matter and, hopefully, come to the conclusion that it's not a good idea to cross us (at least not before he moved his mother somewhere else). We don't want him to reflect at all. We want his heart to clench to a tight fist when he even thinks about opposing us.

[Luckace]

What happens to his aura when he's petrified? Can the mage still locate him when he's a pillar of salt rock?

Edit: and something else: when I want to petrify him, do I have reach a force of his natural body (as I assume his wares don't get petrified), or his augmented body?

[Jack_Spade]

His aura will still be the same, so no difference for detection powers.
His natural Body is 5 (most augments don't change body, hyperthyroid gland being the exception)

[Gilga]

Anna can tell you his exact body score due to her quality from forbidden arcana (arcane bouncer?). So we even have an IC justification for not doing trail and error.

[Luckace]

Ah, that's neat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Gilga]

...

[Volker]

Anna can tell you his exact body score due to her quality from forbidden arcana (arcane bouncer?). So we even have an IC justification for not doing trail and error.

Erm, what? There's a quality that allows her to say "Wraith? His Body is 5, so that's the power you have to go for when you ask Thy Lord to smite Thy wicked Foes with the Almighty's holy Wrath"? I'd love to know what quality that is.

@Luckace: I think, Jack would like Eliza to organize the transport so that we can stay together as a group. Otherwise, whoever would go with him, would drop out of the game for a month or two, maybe longer.

[Gilga]

Pretty much yes, I'd fluff it a bit more to make it appear like some universal magic theory though. So that the Chaos mage can have a common languge with the Christian mage, but yes.


ASTRAL BOUNCER 10 KARMA

Minimum Requirements: Assensing skill 4 (with Aura Reading specialization) A character with this quality has astral sight that is so keen that they’ve developed new ways of sizing up everyone they meet. Along with the normal results, every two net hits on an Assensing skill test can also be used to reveal one of the following about a living being: all positive qualities, all negative qualities, physical attribute ratings, mental attribute ratings, initiate grade, an initiate power, an adept power, or Edge rating

[Volker]

Nope.
"revealing" to the character with the quality has nothing to do with quantification. If you walk into a room where people have been breathing for hours without opening the window, you have a pretty good feeling about the level of oxygen. But you cannot communicate it other than in terms like "stale". Or imagine you see a light. You can describe it with words like "blinding", "bright", "dim", and so on, but this is very crude and imprecise, despite your having an impression that is enough to, in game terms, tell which row in the "environmental modifiers" table you have to use. That doesn't mean you can guess the amount of lux by looking at a light.