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post Aug 5 2004, 06:01 PM
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Ok, I have the rules I need (thanks Madda Gaska!). I just need to know the MCPC rating of the deck, and the desired ratings of the Masking and Evasions stats.
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post Aug 6 2004, 01:55 AM
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It's a Sony CTY with MPCP 5, and he'd like Masking of 5 and Evasion of 5
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post Aug 6 2004, 08:42 AM
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Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to let you all know I’ll be out of town from Monday, Aug 9- Saturday, Aug 14. At this point, I do not know if Tisoz can take over for me, especially because he doesn't know all your storylines (yes, I have stories for all of you). I’ll be certain to get back online and into the game as soon as possible when I return. If anyone has any input on this topic, please feel free to post it. Thanks, and sorry for any inconvenience.
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post Aug 7 2004, 07:33 PM
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Shadowland IC is up. Anyone cleared to post here is cleared for Shadowland (IC and OOC). I recommend you check it, since a lot of the action will continue there while I'm gone next week thanks to Ditaki, our resident Shadowland SysOp. So feel free to start playing around with that.
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post Aug 8 2004, 06:33 AM
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Hey, WinterRat -- what should I have Cheng be doing with the information she obtained from Harmony? Would you want an Etiquette (Matrix) roll to see whether she can take those clues and use them to track down the current location of Shadowland's Seattle node? Or would that be more along the lines of a Locate Access Node op?

For that matter, should I roll Etiquette (Matrix) just to see whether or not I managed to get any useful information on the topic?
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post Aug 8 2004, 06:47 AM
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Everyone- Assume your characters (if they are runners) know how to and have found Shadowland. Also, in case you did not notice the earlier announcement, I will be out of town from Mon, Aug 9-Sat, Aug 14. So Ditaki will be taking care of moving the It's a Small World game forward via Shadowland, so keep checking there. He will be starting it on Jan 1, so it'll be in line with World IC. Consider World IC temporarily 'paused' until I return.

Bearclaw, Paul, and Madda- Your side stories will be wrapped up by Friday, Aug 20 to allow your characters to participate in the runs, if you desire. Just letting you guys know.

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post Aug 8 2004, 08:20 AM
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Sounds good, although I'll be quite happy to continue with side stories for the moment. Cao Jaan isn't exactly in a running frame of mind at the moment, after all.

Hope you enjoy your week off anyway.
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post Aug 8 2004, 09:56 PM
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that's good to know cause crusade is just up my alley
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post Aug 9 2004, 04:08 PM
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I realize not much will happen till you get bakc, have a good or lucrative time, whichever is aplicable, but here are the four dice rolls I think i need to go with that last entry.

Find Melissa:8,5,4,3,2

info on Margrette:15,4,3,2,1

Max on Meliss:5,5,4,4,3 plus whatever extra you want to give me for contact lvl 3

info for new job: 4,3,2,2,1 again plus extra at your choice
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post Aug 10 2004, 09:06 PM
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If I planned it right, at about a post per day the set-up makes some filler until WinterRat1 gets back, and it should also get me into Shadowland and wind up just as the runs begin next week, hopefully without treading on anything or anyone else or on things still in limbo. This is my first time, trying something on-line like this, so let me know if anything is out of line. Because it's all technically backstory, I'm not yet doing rolls or anything like that, just etching out personalities. (Is it all honour system, each person rolling their own dice? or is there some other way of doing it?)

And that'll be all you guys are getting directly of my backstory, even if it is metaknowledge like everyone else's :D

I'll need some help though with public transit systems and locations -- that linked map isn't the greatest.
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post Aug 14 2004, 02:46 PM
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Heard about the typhoon up that way, and you were travelling too. Hope you and yours are okay, WinterRat1 and tisoz. [Edit: okay, so I'm an idiot, and kind of thought tisoz lived somewhere else. Still glad it missed him -- even if it did so by a couple of thousand miles. Sue me.]
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post Aug 15 2004, 06:03 PM
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The Warehouse Job: OOC 1 is looking for some new players. It is a supposed to be a stealthy B&E job.
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post Aug 16 2004, 07:09 AM
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OK everyone, for those who have not noticed, I have returned. Hope you all had a good week, I did, but I'm absolutely exhausted, and I've got to get ready to return to school and get all my stuff together, so I'll be scrambling to catch up and get everything ready. Just a quick update. Also, I figure enough time has passed for a karma award.

Paul, Bearclaw, Madda, Shev, take 1 karma point each for participation over the last few weeks.
Kurukami and Sedna, take 1 point each for participation and another point (each) for quality and consistent posts, particularly over the last week while I was gone.
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post Aug 17 2004, 09:34 PM
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question for the GMs: Are we using the cash for Karma optional rule in the World IC game thread??

My character was planning on begining a 28 day magic circulation to create orichalcum units as a graduation project for my magic teacher/mentor and donate the units to the teacher for karma and to pay training costs.

Let me know if this is viable or not.

If so I was thinking of posting in one week game intervals since my character will not be able to anything else during this process; unless something happens to interrupt the process.

This will advance the timeline by 28 days ahead of anyone else, so I am not sure if this will be a major problem or not.

Let me know what you think about this.
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post Aug 18 2004, 07:13 PM
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OK now I'm pissed. Stupid comp lost my nice big update for you all. Summary version of original post is as follows.

1. Massive update tonight, will address all your character's individual storylines, and the Salvation sub-game setup.

2. In the next few weeks some of you may be switched to Tisoz to better balance the players out.

3. Great job posting everyone, campaign seems to be going quite well. Hopefully we'll be able to continue the trend.
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post Aug 19 2004, 06:56 AM
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OK, anyone who was NOT contacted about the job but actually was interested, just let me know.

Sentinel- Yes we do have cash for karma, but it's a variable rate, 2D6 K nuyen per point of karma and vice versa, and if the roll is higher than what you've got (e.g., it costs you 8000 nuyen but you only have 5000) you go in the hole (basically, you overextended yourself somehow or didn't manage your money quite right) to someone. Usually someone bad, but maybe not, depending on how you RP it. Also, it is viable, but I'm not sure how long it will take us to get through 28 days of game time, so you may be a little disjunct with the rest of the players for quite a while. But it is uncertain, at best. Still, if that's what you want, we're willing to work with you.

Everyone- The game will be bumped to 2300 January 4th, 2063 as of Tuesday, Aug 24, corresponding with the start date of the sub-game Salvation. My apologies for the delay, things were more hectic than I had originally anticipated, and posting a bit slower. I want to try to tie up the individual storylines if possible prior to that, but I am perfectly ok if they aren't tied up. Sometimes biz and personal get interwined. Actually, they usually do. So for all who are not involved in a storyline, feel free to get involved with or start one.

Additionally, I have a few projects I'd like some player assistance with, so I don't have to spend precious time on them. They'd be very helpful to me and Tisoz, as well as possibly your fellow players. If you have the time, inclination, and desire to earn some bonus karma by way of payment, post your interest and I'll get back to you either via PM or post, depending on the amount of interest.
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post Aug 19 2004, 02:22 PM
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That's fine Winterrat1. My character would finish this "project" to help pay off his tuition debts to Sara and generate some extra Karma.

This is not to say that he can't interrupt this 28 day process for a couple of hours with good reason, so if anyone needs some last minute magic support he could do it.

As for helping you with projects I seem to have some extra time right now, so if you need some help let me know and I will do what I can. You should still have my email address.

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post Aug 19 2004, 02:38 PM
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I'd be willing to help on the extra projects if need be. Just let me know what you need. My summer work is winding down now so I have more time to devote to keeping up with the game.
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post Aug 19 2004, 10:26 PM
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I'm in.

General post comment: standard outgoing nuyen such as her transit pass I consider buried under Lifestyle. Any incoming nuyen I happen to mention in-post (such as the 500 :nuyen: tip) are considered subsumed under of Day Job, not extra.

However, any incoming nuyen you happen to mention, unless you tell me otherwise, I'll consider bonus :D
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post Aug 20 2004, 08:14 AM
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What kind of extra projects are you talking about? I've got some time on my hands, given my sporadic work situation, so I'd be willing to help out to some degree.
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post Aug 20 2004, 06:58 PM
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Since there seems to be a lot of interest in these 'extra projects' (I knew offering karma as an incentive would help out with the interest :D ) I will post their general nature here. Oh, and more than one person can work on them, in fact, for project 2 I'd really prefer a group of you worked on it.

Project 1- I would like someone to create a character database, and a location database. Basically, someone to keep track of every character, big and small, PC and NPC, that shows up in the IC thread. Not much info is needed, I will give specifics, but basically I want to know who they are, whose character they interacted with, when they showed up, and whatever info you can tell me about them. It will simply serve to help me remember who showed up in the game. It would be a huge help since obviously I create numerous NPCs on the fly, and having somewhere they're all listed would help me keep them all straight in my head. The location database is nearly the same thing.

Project 2- One thing I've always wanted was to create a realistic stock market for Shadowrun. It seems to be a very practical, useful, necessary, and fun tool that would greatly add realism and a sense of cause/effect relationship to the aftermath of some runs. Basically, the model I've come up with thus far is something like this. Each corp has a rating in different fields, which total up to an overall rating. See Corporate Download. However, it would be erroneous to simply use that final rating as a barometer of their stock performance, since the corp consists of MANY subisidiaries, AND not all areas of a corp are equally profitable. Not too mention that basically makes all the corps relatively equal among their peers (AAA, AA, A, etc).

Instead, what I would like to do is assign a relative weight, think some sort of 'profitability index' if you will, to each category. Clearly each area of business is NOT equally profitable, so they should not be treated as such. So let us say for example, that the area of Finance has a PI of 1.5, and Entertainment a PI of 1.2. Well then we can multiply the corp's rating in finance by 1.5, entertainment by 1.2, and so forth down the line, to get a price per area, and total them all up to get the corp's overall price in the parent corp, but also have a good idea of the price in the subsidiary corp. Of course, the problem is that I don't HAVE relative weights for each area, and it would take a lot of time and energy to analyze real world industries to figure out their relative weights. Basically, I'd like people to come up with relative weights for each area.

HOWEVER, that is just the best I've come up with so far. If someone has a better idea for creating a stock market that is easy to use, understandable, and most importantly, lends itself to the creation of the statistics of new corps reasonably quickly, that is what I am looking for. So whatever someone can come up with that works, I'm willing to take.

Let me know whatever thoughts, questions, comments, ideas, etc you all may have on these projects. Additionally, if there is something someone thinks of that would be very helpful to us as a community in this campaign, feel free to put forth that idea as well.

Final note, I'm currently out of town briefly until Sunday, so my posting will be sporadic until then, just fyi. Great job posting though, all of you, and the way you're keeping your own stories running without GM assistance is exactly what we had in mind. Good job!
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post Aug 20 2004, 07:58 PM
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If #1 (keeping track of PC/NPCs) won't involve actual creation of a computer programme, I'm up for that. (I usually use Word tables.)
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post Aug 20 2004, 10:24 PM
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I know that I am not a GM, but I would like to propose a third project, as it's been an idea of mine for some time. As a scientist I often use many book chapters as references but see little need to purchase an entire text book. For a while now I've made good quality scannings of book chapters and kept them as a digital archive of work to reference. I would like to extend this idea to archiving SR books, so that more people can benefit from them without the difficulty of tracking down out of print books.

A requirement of this project is good-quality scanning work (because I've seen people try this idea before and do terrible jobs). This does not take a lot of effort, just paitence and rudimentary knowledge of how to use a scanner and photoshop/GIMP. I would be willing to do a lot of the work myself, but I only own a fraction of SR source material.

I own . . .
-SR3
-MITS
-Threats 2
- Target: AL

I was hoping that some of you would be able to make archives of your own sourcebooks ( to help fill in the gaps) and then I would've know problems posting them on the web for use by the dumpshock community. I posted this idea here first because I like the game we're building here and I'll probaly make a request to the general forums in the future. Let me know your thoughts.
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post Aug 20 2004, 10:26 PM
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I'd be glad to contribute to #1 as well -- and since I use Excel as my primary tool for tables and Word for long, detailed writings on characters, the programs Sedna's using should mesh well with my own experimentations.

Puzzling out stock-market details is, however, a bit beyond my area of expertise.
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Now that I think about it . . .I will avoid the general user community so that people do not use this effort as a way to abuse copyrights. . .
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