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Cyberware in YOU, ...nowadays, in this world

El_Machinae View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 05:07 PM Post #1
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 2-March 03 Member No.: 4,188	Okay, if you could have SR cyberware or bioware in you, these days - knowing the potential drawbacks related to life-span, health, and social acceptance - would you choose to have any augmentation? What would it be? Imagine the modern day rush/advantage of wired reflexes and a reflex adjuster. I don't know how much I'd benefit personally. I'm thinking I might go for some brain augmentation ... but I'd be a bit nervous about the decreased life-span and being sick all the time. Math SPU and cerebral booster? Maybe.

krishcane View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 05:28 PM Post #2
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 28-May 02 Member No.: 2,784	Given that the technology was well understood and past the buggy beta phase, and that I had the money.... I'd get the datajack, for sure. That opens up a vast world that I'd want to be in on. I'd think about Enhanced Articulation, especially as I got older and my joints got more achey. I'd love to be able to run more without worrying about my knees, for example. Sleep Regulator for more time each day. That's a go. OXSYS Cybergill, especially if it was not visible externally. I love SCUBA diving, and it would be all the better sans air tank. If the Cybergill was visible externally, I'd get an internal air tank. Retractable Climbing Claws -- they double as low-grade weapons, but really I want them for climbing ice, trees, and cliffs. As I got older and my eyes failed, I'd spring for a cyber model or a cloned replacement. I already got LASIK, so I'm not adverse to improvements in this area. LASIK rocks. Possibly Symbiotes -- aren't those the healing bioware? But then, I think you needed to take blood thinners to prevent clotting, and in that case, forget it. But if there was a "heal more easily and quickly" option without being on lifelong drugs, I'd be into that. --K

Ezra View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 05:29 PM Post #3
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 26-February 02 From: UK Member No.: 1,873	Enhanced Articulation. Platelet factories. Bone Lacing. Muscle Augs. (Something light....no sense in looking like the Hulk in flesh body paint) A concealed data-jack and a skill-wire with a nice selection of skill-softs would be awesome.

MrSandman666 View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 05:50 PM Post #4
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Hamburg, Germany Member No.: 1,270	Somethink light... brain mods... Being the computer-freak that I am I'd definately get a data-jack. Maybe some head-mem and a display link as a retina-mod. And I would get my eyes fixed! (I hate to wear vision-aids) I don't think, however, that I would replace any working part of my body by machinery. I would rather try to get it healed/fixed/repaired before replacing it. I might also get some bioware like the cerebral booster or something like that... I've always been longing for a sleep regulator, but I'd have to research on the long term effects of that.

El_Machinae

Aug 27 2003, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE (krishcane)

I already got LASIK, so I'm not adverse to improvements in this area. LASIK rocks.

I hear you. I used to have pretty thick, heavy glasses. The laser eye surgery really improved my life. Confidence and convenience really went up. Since then, I've been awfully pro-technology when it comes to human improvement. Sadly, there isn't much money going into those areas. Personally, I think Stem Cells will really open up our potential though.

... I forgot about the cyber eyes. Can you use cyber eyes and headware memory to record what you see, or do you need an eye cam? 'Cause the eye augmentation would be pretty useful.

Though I think the two standard deviation jump of intelligence (available from cerebral booster) would really make life easier.

A knowsoft link w/ knowsofts would be pretty handy ... but nothing from the future would be allowed (ie. "Sports history from 2000 to 2063" ala Back to the Future)

MrSandman666 View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 06:20 PM Post #6
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Hamburg, Germany Member No.: 1,270	You'd need an eye cam... You mind if I ask you some questions about LASIK? I'm really interested in this! How good was your sight after the operation? I've heard of people where their sight could not be restored to a full 100% and they still needed reading glasses and then I've heard of poeple whose sight was actually way too good. They couldn't use a computer any more because seeing all those sub-pixels drove them crazy. How much did you pay for the operation?

Austere Emancipa... Austere Emancipator View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 06:24 PM Post #7
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222	Datajack(s), Math SPU-3 (I suck at math, I wish I didn't), Reaction Enhancer-6 (I hate being slow), Muscle Toner-4, Muscle Aug-4, Cerebral Booster-2, Mnemonic Enhancer-3 (I have an extremely poor memory, I wish I could remember everything with crystal clarity, living in the past is so much more fun). You can use Knowsoft chips with a Datajack, rite? If not, a Knowsoft link would be a must.

Zazen View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 06:24 PM Post #8
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123	I guess I'll chime in by saying that I find the idea of getting cut up and having foreign objects added to my body is too distasteful for me to try. None for me, thanks. :)

Austere Emancipa... Austere Emancipator View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 06:29 PM Post #9
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222	I find my body so distateful that any foreign object is an improvement, including things like knife blades and bullets.

Wish View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 06:53 PM Post #10
Target Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 23-February 03 Member No.: 4,142	I'd go for quite a bit. Eyes and ears. Synthcardium, enhanced articulation and bone lacing (plastic is fine) to cut down on injuries and illness. Cerebral booster, mnemonic enhancer, and sleep regulator. And clean metabolism. If I could only pick just one, it would be a tough call between cerebral booster and sleep regulator.

krishcane View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 06:54 PM Post #11
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 28-May 02 Member No.: 2,784	My answers on the LASIK topic: I had one eye at 20/20 and the other at 20/200. That last is legally blind, I hear. It was atrociously bad. I didn't bother with glasses for it -- I just used my left (good) eye for everything. The doctor was really excited when he examined me eyes, because how much improvement LASIK can offer depends on precisely what is wrong with your eyes -- there are a lot of different possibly ways that vision can be blurry. However, my eyes fell right in the "sweet spot" for this procedure -- maximum possible benefit. Before the op, I wasn't sure if he was just selling me the package. Maybe he says that to everyone... I thought. On the other hand, you'll know pretty quickly what you got from it, so he'd be a fool to oversell the point. He wasn't overselling. I only did one eye for cost and fear purposes -- the 20/200 one. I figured if they totally screwed it up, oh well. Besides, I was used to asymmetric eyes already. After the op, that eye was 20/15 -- better than normal!! Using both eyes (where you get some additional vision benefit from interpolation) I was at 20/10. It was outrageous. Yes, it was almost too much. I was distracted for awhile by the outrageous detail of everything -- driving down the road, I could see every single leaf on every tree. I could see every feather on nearby birds, and the individual hair strands in people's hair. Some people got a lot uglier than way. I also had some visual strain -- the brain sort of overloads from all the data. The brain compensates. Within 2 weeks, my vision drifted back down to a mere 20/20. The eyes stayed the same, but my visual processing in the brain just de-rezzed my visual experience until it was at a comfortable level. I'm hoping that in 20 years, when the eyes start to slip again due to biology, that my brain will use that margin, turn up the visual cortex again, and milk it for another 10 years or so without glasses. We'll see. The only drawback, other than 48 hours of slight discomfort, was that I get a minor halo around lights at night -- such as oncoming headlights. Occasionally, I get a mild headache from that, usually if I'm already tired. On the other hand, before the op, all I had was a massive blurry zone of bright lights, so I'm disinclined to call "sharp vision with a halo" a real loss. Oh, I paid US$999 for the one eye procedure. It was on special. :) I think it's more like US$1500 per eye these days. But it's soooooo worth it compared to a car, a new stereo, a vacation.... that's all stuff you could drop $1500 or more on, and this is better than that. If you're living in abject poverty, it's probably not worth 6 months lifestyle, but that's mostly because why would you want to see your abject poverty better? ;) --K

Spookymonster View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 07:19 PM Post #12
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638	Multi-slot chipjack, expert chipjack driver, and some skillwires. I'd have every programming reference manual on my bookshelf squeezed into a single chip, switch languages (human and computer) in the blink of an eye, use skills I wouldn't normally even consider taking the time to learn (Macarena-5, anyone? :)), and improve my existing skill set via a virtual instructor. Imagine being able to experience a concert by your favorite (dead) artist first-hand (so to speak) via Simsense. And then there's always that Calhot Asia Carerra chip that's been floating around lately.... yum.......;) And if I ever got bored being me, I'd just slip in a p-mod for the night.

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Aug 27 2003, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE (El_Machinae)

Okay, if you could have SR cyberware or bioware in you, these days - knowing the potential drawbacks related to life-span, health, and social acceptance - would you choose to have any augmentation? What would it be?

Imagine the modern day rush/advantage of wired reflexes and a reflex adjuster. I don't know how much I'd benefit personally.

I'm thinking I might go for some brain augmentation ... but I'd be a bit nervous about the decreased life-span and being sick all the time. Math SPU and cerebral booster? Maybe.

Gee...what would I get? What budget would I have?

Well, my no-$-limit wish list is:

*Induction Data Jack with ASIST interface, assuming it's fairly compatible with computers today.
*Math SPU 3. It can't hurt to do better at math in an engineering firm.
*Some headware memory, maybe 125Mp of beta grade stuff. Run some PDA/pocket secretary software, some modeling software, etc.
*2-slot Chipjack (compact flash cards?), hidden under my hair. Watch those MPEG movies and listen to MP3s without the bother of headphones and 3" screens.
*Internal GPS. I've seen an integrated PDA-GPS do some fun things with GPS raw data.
*Image Link - to better watch movies off chips.
*Optical Magnification 1, beta or delta. Just a little jelly lense inserted in the eye to permanently be rid of contacts.
*Dampener, for the next time I'm dragged to a concert.

*Sleep Regulator. I know a real insomniac so my occassional problems hardly compare, but I'd like to be able to get by on 4 hours of sleep nightly, too. I could use another 4 hours of free time a day - I log off EQ far too early.
*Symbiotes 3. Not only an excuse to snack constantly and work off that incipent spare tire, but a healing improvement, too.
*Nictating Membranes. A self-healing flare compensation and dust guard for my cybered up eyes.
*Enhanced Articulation. I've always had about as much flex as a steel I-beam.
*Nephritic Screen and Pathogenic Defense - new diseases are popping up too often.
*Synthicardium 1. Too much heart disease in my family, and I hope those symbiotes also clean up arteries.
*Mnemonic Enhancer 3. To better learn from my mistakes.
*Cerebral Booster 1 or 2. Sure, why not?
*Cultured Pheromones 1. Yes, I am sad enough to need the help.

*Calcitonin. Tough bones sound good.
*Angiotensin. Cut down on that bleeding when a coworker expresses his displeasure at downsizing with flying lead.
*Erythropoietin. The oxygen booster genetech. Any excuse to work on that athleticism.

Options:
*Orientation Link. Pricey, too pricey IMO for its job, but fun in combo with spatial recognizers and GPS systems.
*Spatial Recognizer. Just to work on my "Daredevil" skillz.
*Balance Augmenter. De-clutz this nerd.
*Thermosense Organs. Again, to better beat Daredevil at his own game.

I'd skip on phones and implant radios. Wireless is developing too rapidly these days.

Of course, that's the expensive wish list. I could cut down on all that quite a bit. Down to just the Math SPU and sleep regulator, mebbe.

QUOTE (Krishkane)

Yes, it was almost too much. I was distracted for awhile by the outrageous detail of everything -- driving down the road, I could see every single leaf on every tree. I could see every feather on nearby birds, and the individual hair strands in people's hair. Some people got a lot uglier than way. I also had some visual strain -- the brain sort of overloads from all the data.

The brain compensates. Within 2 weeks, my vision drifted back down to a mere 20/20.

I do that same thing every time I get a new contact/eyeglasses perscription. "Ooo, ahh, the detail! The detail!" Two weeks later: "Dammit, all fuzzy again."

Buzzed View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 07:49 PM Post #14
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 348 Joined: 20-June 03 Member No.: 4,782	Id get cybereyes, a datajack, display link, and headware memory. Who wouldnt want a computer display in your head. Makes taikng tests a breeze.

Buzzed View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 07:54 PM Post #15
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 348 Joined: 20-June 03 Member No.: 4,782	On the other hand, I would think about geting an obvious cyberskull with red glowing cybereyes to answer the door for trick-or-treaters.

lodestar View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 08:05 PM Post #16
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 424 Joined: 11-May 02 From: Marauding the mighty North Saskatchewan Member No.: 2,720	VCR 3, image link and induction datajack. To fly like I am the plane would be an ultimate rush. Of course I'd need to get a hold of some black boxes too...

Connor View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 08:12 PM Post #17
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652	My #1 choice would be the sleep regulator, followed by enhanced articulation. Everything else would just be icing on the cake.

Herald of Verjig... Herald of Verjigorm View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 08:18 PM Post #18
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017	Force 6 dikoted datajack power focus.

The Synthcat View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 08:28 PM Post #19
Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Montreal Member No.: 5,243	Math SPU 3. Given that I'm majoring in math, that's a no-brainer... A sleep regulator would be nice for the extra hours of sleep, and I wouldn't say no to an encephalon or cerebral booster... And cybereyes, to get that 20/20 vision without glasses.

Sphynx View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 08:42 PM Post #20
Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,222 Joined: 11-October 02 From: Netherlands and Belgium Member No.: 3,437	Cybereyes with Flare Comp (I hate the glare of the Sun). Datajack and ImageLink in the cybereye. LowLight vision (give me a reason to stay in the dark) Clean Metabolism (no gas or smelly armpits? Heheheh....) Dietware (I hate starving myself to look good, be nice not to have to work out after every other meal) Scent Glands (Always smell like you just came out of a shower) Math SPU-3, I always have my calculator open cause I'm always programming..... Not for decking. Sphynx

hobgoblin View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 08:44 PM Post #21
panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242	cybereyes with lowlight and flare comp., datajack, probably some lowlevel muscle stuff, maybe retractable razorsjust for that dont fuck with me statement. maybe headphone, radio, memory and knowsoft link. hell toss in display and image link and a sound filter:) if i pick up aliens on my head then shit happens. hmm, symbiotes and/or nano symbiotes and maybe plastic or kevlar bonelaceing. oh and dont forget the air or blood filter:) (last one is perfect for those hard night on town). hmm i wonder how low an essence i would have after this. oops, forgot about the dampener on the ears, hell maybe i should go cyberears to...

satcong View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 09:13 PM Post #22
Target Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 18-August 03 From: Manchester, UK Member No.: 5,515	Anything that allowed me to smoke and drink more without the pay-back of cancer or sclerosis of the liver (not to mention hangovers)... :)

Drain Brain View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 09:50 PM Post #23
The Sewer Jockey Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 857 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Kent, United Kingdom Member No.: 1,197	Eye lights to scare the crapola outta my other half's mates (who she insists on "having over" to stay in our front room). Also, I'd like to point out the need for someone to quickly invent X-Ray cybereyes, so I can say "X-Ray cybereyes, please!" so I can check out all the hotties... Oh no, I'm not a perv... really... Aaaaaanyway - as an actor, I gotta say, mnemonic enhancer (for the dialogue/moves), anything that enhances charisma, and maybe a knowsoft for some language chips...

Digital Heroin View Member Profile	Aug 27 2003, 11:13 PM Post #24
Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,458 Joined: 22-March 03 From: I am a figment of my own imagination. Member No.: 4,302	I'm gonna have to say Move-by-Wire... I mean come on... think about how slick it'd be... just the pure rush of being a liquid smooth speek jockey'd be killer... Now being that I'm a (still awaiting training) Naval Communicator, I'd probably go with a Datajack for working purposes, and headware memory...

sidekick View Member Profile	Aug 28 2003, 03:18 AM Post #25
Target Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 17-March 03 Member No.: 4,269	Datajack (x3..temple, temple, base of skull) 100 MP of Headmem Image Link Opticam Ear Rcorder Transducer No enhanced senses, no super physical abilites, just some simple things that allow me to watch movies while walking around, and talk on the phone without speaking outloud (i am really paranoid about people over hearing me). I probably wouldn't go for bioware, but if I did, I would get Clean Metabolism and Dietware to improve the whole appearance and what not. If I was really pushing it... I would probably go for a pain editor since I get really bad migraines. These are what I would get if I was going to get everything...the idea of this stuff malfunctioning is kinda scary.

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