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> Stereotypical handicaps, The blind mage, the quadriplegic rigger
Da9iel
post Aug 18 2004, 07:04 AM
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Alright, it seems I'm not the only one who thought of a blind mage (even before it was a flaw) and apparently there are other quadriplegic riggers out there (also a concept of mine before flaws). What other typical handicapped archetypes exist? Especially now that there are published flaws, what flaw-archetype combo do you see most often? :cyber:
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post Aug 18 2004, 07:08 AM
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I've seen a quadrapelegic mage who only goes on runs in the astral form with his ally spirit taking care of physical tasks; a blind physad--a la Daredevil; and a quadrapelegic decker or at least everyone swore he was until the charisma 8 elf leaned over him...
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post Aug 18 2004, 07:12 AM
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The quad mage intrigues me. Is that common? I forgot about the daredevil lookalikes. Yes, definitely add those to the list. I remember the huge topic recently debating the "ultasound" sense power for adepts. Meh.
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post Aug 18 2004, 07:46 AM
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Yeah and when you can ehance senses for .25 power points, it's really easy to add them all for a daredevil concept (using the extra flaw points for cool advantages).
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post Aug 18 2004, 09:17 AM
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The blind physad sword specialist.
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post Aug 18 2004, 12:03 PM
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The Blind guy who got ghouled.
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post Aug 18 2004, 12:43 PM
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Munchkins delight (Been there, seen that):

Sensitive System and a Mage [That seem to be the all time favourite)

Ugly... and/or Uncougth and a Cha1 Ork / Troll

Incompetence:Firearms, Pazifist Lv1 and a Shaman

Bloodlust, Impulsive and STR max Kill-Kill Trolls

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post Aug 18 2004, 01:20 PM
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FYI, you most likely can't take incompetence firearms and pacifism. The incompetence needs to be in something you use at least once per run. If you're a pacifist, most likely you won't.

I've seen amnesia up the ying-yang, but mostly it's with street sams. Also popular are vindictive and combat monster for them. I've seen a fair number of riggers with phobias or allergies. (Strangely enough, I've never had anyone in my group take amnesia. They've brought it up a couple of times, but after I started laughing evily at all the fun I'd have, they decided against it. Poo.)
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:26 PM
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They could have used Flashbacks to counter Amnesia.

Just as a Braggart is almost certainly a Liar.

And don't forget Perfect Memory and Amnesia + Flashbacks are almost certainly foolproof RP wise! :D
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:34 PM
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FYI, you most likely can't take incompetence firearms and pacifism. The incompetence needs to be in something you use at least once per run. If you're a pacifist, most likely you won't.

Gel rounds.

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post Aug 18 2004, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Aug 18 2004, 07:20 AM)
FYI, you most likely can't take incompetence firearms and pacifism.  The incompetence needs to be in something you use at least once per run.  If you're a pacifist, most likely you won't.

Nope, it just has to be in a skill you can use (and since you can't use it when defaulting, you have to have at least 1 skill point in the skill). Beyond that, the GM is recommended to highlight the skill in some fashion at least once per run, but that is neither a requirement nor a rule.
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Aug 18 2004, 07:20 AM)
FYI, you most likely can't take incompetence firearms and pacifism.  The incompetence needs to be in something you use at least once per run.  If you're a pacifist, most likely you won't.

Nope, it just has to be in a skill you can use (and since you can't use it when defaulting, you have to have at least 1 skill point in the skill). Beyond that, the GM is recommended to highlight the skill in some fashion at least once per run, but that is neither a requirement nor a rule.

Given that SR Pazifism says "Can't kill except in self defence" it's even worse...


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post Aug 18 2004, 04:37 PM
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"look out! that security guard i've got in the sights of my sniper rifle is coming right for us!"

i've got a blind physad, but i decided to take the non-stereotypical route, and not get astral percep. of course, i've got every other sense boosted so high that she's more aware of her surroundings than most people with eyes. her melee mods for vision are knocked down to just +1; with the mankiri-gusari that is her weapon of choice, she melees at -1.
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post Aug 18 2004, 04:44 PM
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Actually a blind Hermetic mage is far more screwed than most people make him out to be if only for the Uber pain in the ass that happens when you can't read any printed Conjuring or other magical Libraries. Having to get it on chip and have a computer read it to you would add a serious multiplier to the base times for anything related to them, not even accounting for formulae that involve pictures and diagrams.
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post Aug 18 2004, 04:51 PM
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Datajack. The lower-priced flaw doesn't block ASIST signals, etc.

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post Aug 18 2004, 05:03 PM
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or trodes, if you want to save on essence.
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post Aug 18 2004, 05:13 PM
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Ahh, wow, I never even considered that. cool!
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post Aug 18 2004, 06:07 PM
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It might be cool to play a mute character, but since it's so easy to get around (transducer), as a GM I'd make it a -1 flaw at best.

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post Aug 18 2004, 11:31 PM
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Nah, they would just be mute because of brain damage or something harder to fix, just like the blindness flaw isn't removed by a simple set of cybereyes.
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post Aug 18 2004, 11:46 PM
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Oh c'mon, no Wheelchair-bound decker?

I though a Rocker-with-a-Stalker would be funny as hell.

Classic Big-dumb-troll, that likes rabbits/hamsters/kittens and wants to live of the fat 'o the land...
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post Aug 18 2004, 11:59 PM
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Blind swordsman adept is pretty common I think... you can get them to the point of not having any visibility mods, and it's a very classic idea.

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post Aug 19 2004, 12:31 AM
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I though a Rocker-with-a-Stalker would be funny as hell.

Or better yet, Stalker-of-a-Rocker.
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post Aug 19 2004, 05:15 AM
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Actually a blind Hermetic mage is far more screwed than most people make him out to be if only for the Uber pain in the ass that happens when you can't read any printed Conjuring or other magical Libraries. Having to get it on chip and have a computer read it to you would add a serious multiplier to the base times for anything related to them, not even accounting for formulae that involve pictures and diagrams.

Would you allow a blind mage to read a handwritten library? He or she is not actually reading the words, but is reading the intent and emotion of the writer (possibly him/herself). Of course the cost would need to be insanely high.
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post Aug 19 2004, 05:16 AM
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I tend towards troll magic users with combat monster.

I find incredibly amusing the idea of a weak-as-piss (for a)troll going tooth and nail against someone after her spells didn't work.
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post Aug 19 2004, 05:31 AM
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Or better yet, Stalker-of-a-Rocker.


That's what we need: the "Hunting" flaw.
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