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Da9iel
Alright, it seems I'm not the only one who thought of a blind mage (even before it was a flaw) and apparently there are other quadriplegic riggers out there (also a concept of mine before flaws). What other typical handicapped archetypes exist? Especially now that there are published flaws, what flaw-archetype combo do you see most often? cyber.gif
BishopMcQ
I've seen a quadrapelegic mage who only goes on runs in the astral form with his ally spirit taking care of physical tasks; a blind physad--a la Daredevil; and a quadrapelegic decker or at least everyone swore he was until the charisma 8 elf leaned over him...
Da9iel
The quad mage intrigues me. Is that common? I forgot about the daredevil lookalikes. Yes, definitely add those to the list. I remember the huge topic recently debating the "ultasound" sense power for adepts. Meh.
mrobviousjosh
Yeah and when you can ehance senses for .25 power points, it's really easy to add them all for a daredevil concept (using the extra flaw points for cool advantages).
Bob the Ninja
The blind physad sword specialist.
toturi
The Blind guy who got ghouled.
Birdy
Munchkins delight (Been there, seen that):

Sensitive System and a Mage [That seem to be the all time favourite)

Ugly... and/or Uncougth and a Cha1 Ork / Troll

Incompetence:Firearms, Pazifist Lv1 and a Shaman

Bloodlust, Impulsive and STR max Kill-Kill Trolls

Birdy



nezumi
FYI, you most likely can't take incompetence firearms and pacifism. The incompetence needs to be in something you use at least once per run. If you're a pacifist, most likely you won't.

I've seen amnesia up the ying-yang, but mostly it's with street sams. Also popular are vindictive and combat monster for them. I've seen a fair number of riggers with phobias or allergies. (Strangely enough, I've never had anyone in my group take amnesia. They've brought it up a couple of times, but after I started laughing evily at all the fun I'd have, they decided against it. Poo.)

toturi
They could have used Flashbacks to counter Amnesia.

Just as a Braggart is almost certainly a Liar.

And don't forget Perfect Memory and Amnesia + Flashbacks are almost certainly foolproof RP wise! biggrin.gif
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (nezumi)
FYI, you most likely can't take incompetence firearms and pacifism. The incompetence needs to be in something you use at least once per run. If you're a pacifist, most likely you won't.

Gel rounds.

~J
Ol' Scratch
QUOTE (nezumi @ Aug 18 2004, 07:20 AM)
FYI, you most likely can't take incompetence firearms and pacifism.  The incompetence needs to be in something you use at least once per run.  If you're a pacifist, most likely you won't.

Nope, it just has to be in a skill you can use (and since you can't use it when defaulting, you have to have at least 1 skill point in the skill). Beyond that, the GM is recommended to highlight the skill in some fashion at least once per run, but that is neither a requirement nor a rule.
Birdy
QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)
QUOTE (nezumi @ Aug 18 2004, 07:20 AM)
FYI, you most likely can't take incompetence firearms and pacifism.  The incompetence needs to be in something you use at least once per run.  If you're a pacifist, most likely you won't.

Nope, it just has to be in a skill you can use (and since you can't use it when defaulting, you have to have at least 1 skill point in the skill). Beyond that, the GM is recommended to highlight the skill in some fashion at least once per run, but that is neither a requirement nor a rule.

Given that SR Pazifism says "Can't kill except in self defence" it's even worse...


Birdy
mfb
"look out! that security guard i've got in the sights of my sniper rifle is coming right for us!"

i've got a blind physad, but i decided to take the non-stereotypical route, and not get astral percep. of course, i've got every other sense boosted so high that she's more aware of her surroundings than most people with eyes. her melee mods for vision are knocked down to just +1; with the mankiri-gusari that is her weapon of choice, she melees at -1.
BitBasher
Actually a blind Hermetic mage is far more screwed than most people make him out to be if only for the Uber pain in the ass that happens when you can't read any printed Conjuring or other magical Libraries. Having to get it on chip and have a computer read it to you would add a serious multiplier to the base times for anything related to them, not even accounting for formulae that involve pictures and diagrams.
Kagetenshi
Datajack. The lower-priced flaw doesn't block ASIST signals, etc.

~J
mfb
or trodes, if you want to save on essence.
BitBasher
Ahh, wow, I never even considered that. cool!
UpSyndrome
It might be cool to play a mute character, but since it's so easy to get around (transducer), as a GM I'd make it a -1 flaw at best.

-Joe
Rev
Nah, they would just be mute because of brain damage or something harder to fix, just like the blindness flaw isn't removed by a simple set of cybereyes.
GrinderTheTroll
Oh c'mon, no Wheelchair-bound decker?

I though a Rocker-with-a-Stalker would be funny as hell.

Classic Big-dumb-troll, that likes rabbits/hamsters/kittens and wants to live of the fat 'o the land...
JaronK
Blind swordsman adept is pretty common I think... you can get them to the point of not having any visibility mods, and it's a very classic idea.

JaronK
Person 404
QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll)
I though a Rocker-with-a-Stalker would be funny as hell.

Or better yet, Stalker-of-a-Rocker.
Da9iel
QUOTE (BitBasher)
Actually a blind Hermetic mage is far more screwed than most people make him out to be if only for the Uber pain in the ass that happens when you can't read any printed Conjuring or other magical Libraries. Having to get it on chip and have a computer read it to you would add a serious multiplier to the base times for anything related to them, not even accounting for formulae that involve pictures and diagrams.

Would you allow a blind mage to read a handwritten library? He or she is not actually reading the words, but is reading the intent and emotion of the writer (possibly him/herself). Of course the cost would need to be insanely high.
Aidley
I tend towards troll magic users with combat monster.

I find incredibly amusing the idea of a weak-as-piss (for a)troll going tooth and nail against someone after her spells didn't work.
Frank Foobar
QUOTE
Or better yet, Stalker-of-a-Rocker.


That's what we need: the "Hunting" flaw.
BitBasher
QUOTE (Da9iel)
QUOTE (BitBasher)
Actually a blind Hermetic mage is far more screwed than most people make him out to be if only for the Uber pain in the ass that happens when you can't read any printed Conjuring or other magical Libraries. Having to get it on chip and have a computer read it to you would add a serious multiplier to the base times for anything related to them, not even accounting for formulae that involve pictures and diagrams.

Would you allow a blind mage to read a handwritten library? He or she is not actually reading the words, but is reading the intent and emotion of the writer (possibly him/herself). Of course the cost would need to be insanely high.

No, the enotion of the page doesn't tell you anything about what's ON the page at all, only that the writer felt strongly about it in one way or another. You cannot read intent IIRC, you can only read emotion, theres a huge difference between the two. The datajack thing would work nifty tho.
Da9iel
Guess if a guy didn't want a jack or trodes, he'd have to go lo-tech: Braile and embossed graphs/diagrams/pictures.
Catsnightmare
Typical flaws, well yea I'm guilty of that one, Sensative System chaos sorcerer, with incompetantcy in computers, and simsense vertigo to the point he can't even look at a trid screen without headaches (+1TN to read/use a tridscreen terminal on top of the computer incompetence). His hermetic shop/library is all books, a computer-for-dummies terminal and everything uses antique 2d monitors with converters (no trid). The funny thing was he had the best Matrix connection for decking and it drove the decker nuts when he was there.

Physad with bio-rejection, but then again he has bad eyesight (needs glasses and can't get eye mods to correct it) and has a phobia of dogs. (makes guard dogs a pain, and one of the teams fixers is magical and has a metadog of somekind as a familiar.) Not quite the 'typical' over all.
GrinderTheTroll
OK this one made me LOL:

The "S" Team:

Hannibal - Human : Tough, well-connected, know-it-all merc, and group leader. He love's it when a plan comes together.

"BA" Baracas - Troll/Ork : The muscle of the group who can take a lick'n and keep on tickin'! Good luck getting him on a plane.

"Face" - Human : Smooth talker who gets the dirt and the goods. He can wine and dine as well as chuck a concussion grenade.

"MurdocK" - Dwarf : Crazy Rigger who can work wonders with a wrench and duct tape. His unorthodox tactics confuse enemies.
kevyn668
A good group more or less but what does that have to do w/ flaws? Other than Mr. T's aversion to flying and suseptability to hypnotism and "mickeys," of course.

Edit: I always considered B.A. an Ork and Murdock an Elf...even though they have the same blood type. smile.gif
GrinderTheTroll
I've been planning on introducing my runners to the "S" Team as NPC, I know they'd all have a good laugh.

Yeah it's tricky thinking who'd be what as far as race goes, but I like the idea of a dwarf(perhaps gnome) rigger/tinkerer, elf as the face, and ork/troll as the beef-cake. Tie all that in with a human as the leader and its pure TV goodness!
hyzmarca
The Stalked Face.

Hunted - 2 for the love-struck loser who doesn't know when to quit.

HUnted - 6 For the God-like archvillain who expresses his love by having his goons skin your teammates alive and write love-pomems in their blood, knowing that if he(or she) torturs you enough, you'll eventualy understand that you truely love him, then you can live happily ever after.

I came across a few houseruled edges and flaws here http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/Edges.html and thought Venus' Blessings, Curse of Venus and Wierdness Magnet would be a good combination. The idea is a normal mundane character who's surrounded by magical beings who like him in a way that he doesn't appreciate. Including, but not limited to, Earth Elementals who raid his refridigerator for some unfathomable reason and beautiful sucubus like free sprits with the essence drain power who try to seduce him on a regular weekly basis.
Add lechery, as he is terribly flirtatious in a vain attempt to compensate for all the wierdness by getting a "normal" girlfriend. Normal being realitive. He'd hit on a femal troll just as quickly as he would hit on a female human.

Also, Amnesia plus dependant.
" Your telling me that I have a daughter and that the corp I'm working for, the corp that paid all my medical expenses after I was shot in the head, kidnapped her and is still holding her somewhere in this building?"
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