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post Aug 25 2004, 06:13 PM
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Someone asked the question in this thread http://invision.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=5047 about about how much continuous fire untill you damage a weapon barrell.

I thought this recent clip about the new XM8 Assault Rifle to replaces the M-16 was interesting:

Observations include:

• It's more versatile than the old M-16 rifle it will replace and should fire thousands of rounds before jamming, rather than the few hundred shots before the M-16 typically jams.

• It's much easier to clean and maintain.

• Training time is reduced since it's a single weapon that can be modified to fire short distances, long distances, launch grenades, etc.

• It should last longer, with barrels able to fire 15,000 rounds before being replaced rather than the 6,000 to 9,000 rounds it takes to wear out an M-16 barrel. Developers are trying to push the XM8 barrels to 20,000 rounds before replacement.

The XM8 will cost more to make initially, but should settle into a full-rate production cost of $600 to $700 a copy. That compares to $500 for the M-16 and $950 for the M4 carbine.

Source: http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/...3/mn/mn01a.html
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- GrinderTheTroll   New XM8 Assault Rifle   Aug 25 2004, 06:13 PM
- - Necro Tech   Please tell me thats not the actual picture of the...   Aug 25 2004, 07:23 PM
- - PBTHHHHT   Oh geez, you're right. Maybe it's to m...   Aug 25 2004, 07:29 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (Necro Tech) Please tell me thats not the ac...   Aug 25 2004, 07:47 PM
- - BitBasher   Their design department has been watching too much...   Aug 25 2004, 07:50 PM
- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll) Observations include: [SN...   Aug 25 2004, 08:01 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   Actually that's a direct quote from the articl...   Aug 25 2004, 08:13 PM
- - Lindt   And here I thought the IOCW looked silly, this thi...   Aug 25 2004, 08:14 PM
- - Nath   I think the final version will be in the black ...   Aug 25 2004, 08:19 PM
- - Luke Hardison   QUOTE (Lindt) Nice to know what my tax dollers are...   Aug 25 2004, 08:20 PM
- - Nath   QUOTE (Luke Hardison)That said, this weapon is und...   Aug 25 2004, 08:23 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   A target that is too busy laughing to shoot back i...   Aug 25 2004, 08:25 PM
- - Arethusa   If you watched the prototype firing videos release...   Aug 25 2004, 08:43 PM
- - Backgammon   Maybe the design is part of the "Look, killin...   Aug 25 2004, 08:48 PM
- - TheScamp   QUOTE Their design department has been watching to...   Aug 25 2004, 08:50 PM
- - KillaJ   The sad part is that HK had originally planned a m...   Aug 25 2004, 09:16 PM
- - Siege   It may be an ugly rifle, but if it can deliver eve...   Aug 25 2004, 09:19 PM
- - Nath   QUOTE (Siege)...if it can deliver everything it...   Aug 25 2004, 09:23 PM
- - RangerJoe   QUOTE Please tell me thats not the actual picture ...   Aug 25 2004, 09:30 PM
- - Luke Hardison   QUOTE (TheScamp) QUOTE Their design department has...   Aug 25 2004, 09:30 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (FlakJacket) QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll @ A...   Aug 25 2004, 09:56 PM
- - FXcalibur   So what happens to the OICW? Totally scrapped or r...   Aug 25 2004, 10:16 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (KillaJ @ Aug 25 2004, 11:16 PM) The sa...   Aug 25 2004, 10:27 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (FXcalibur) So what happens to the OICW? Tot...   Aug 25 2004, 10:43 PM
- - hobgoblin   or just go underbarrel & singel shot just like...   Aug 25 2004, 10:48 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (hobgoblin) or just go underbarrel & sin...   Aug 25 2004, 10:52 PM
- - hobgoblin   i know, and its had the magazine for the grenades ...   Aug 25 2004, 10:56 PM
- - FlakJacket   On the design front, isn't this basically what...   Aug 25 2004, 11:49 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (FlakJacket) On the design front, isn't ...   Aug 25 2004, 11:52 PM
- - BGMFH   SOme of the early M-16s did have Mattel stamped on...   Aug 26 2004, 12:17 AM
- - Arethusa   Just to clarify, the OICW, eventually designated X...   Aug 26 2004, 12:45 AM
- - mfb   not to mention the Mk-19 automatic grenade launche...   Aug 26 2004, 12:57 AM
- - Arethusa   Well, the Mk19 is a different brand of 40mm altoge...   Aug 26 2004, 01:13 AM
- - mfb   bah, don't you read your SR? they're both ...   Aug 26 2004, 01:24 AM
- - hobgoblin   now who the hell needs a grenade launcher that can...   Aug 26 2004, 01:56 AM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (mfb)bah, don't you read your SR? they...   Aug 26 2004, 02:23 AM
- - Crusher Bob   The Mk19 has a bit more oomph that a M2 but you ca...   Aug 26 2004, 02:32 AM
- - mfb   overkill is the word of the day when the bad guys ...   Aug 26 2004, 02:42 AM
- - mmu1   I think it'd look allright in black if they ju...   Aug 26 2004, 03:04 AM
- - Arethusa   The XM8 is not a G36. It is a development of the ...   Aug 26 2004, 03:31 AM
- - Bossemanden   "• It's more versatile than the old M-16 ...   Aug 26 2004, 04:15 AM
- - Siege   A fairly thorough page on the XM-8 The Russian Gu...   Aug 26 2004, 04:39 AM
- - mfb   or, it could mean the XM-8 can fire can fire sever...   Aug 26 2004, 04:46 AM
- - Bossemanden   QUOTE (mfb) or, it could mean the XM-8 can fire ca...   Aug 26 2004, 04:49 AM
- - Clyde   The main change with the XM-8's operating syst...   Aug 26 2004, 04:59 AM
- - MYST1C   QUOTE (hobgoblin)and why the fuck must the us mili...   Aug 26 2004, 09:02 AM
- - mfb   ...right. it couldn't be an attempt to create ...   Aug 26 2004, 09:30 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Clyde)The main change with the XM-8's o...   Aug 26 2004, 11:36 AM
- - Ed_209a   One downside to the Mk-19 is the long standoff ran...   Aug 26 2004, 04:12 PM
- - hobgoblin   was not HK mixed into with the OICW project? whats...   Aug 26 2004, 05:21 PM
- - Arethusa   Uh, have you read the rest of this thread?   Aug 26 2004, 05:55 PM
- - BitBasher   QUOTE (hobgoblin) was not HK mixed into with the O...   Aug 26 2004, 06:10 PM
- - otomik   actually the XM8 is a pretty conservative design b...   Aug 26 2004, 07:16 PM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, i belive i had read the thread and some of th...   Aug 26 2004, 07:19 PM
- - Arethusa   hobgoblin, read my post on the second page. I bas...   Aug 26 2004, 07:44 PM
- - Siege   Has there been a report issued on how quickly an X...   Aug 26 2004, 07:54 PM
- - Arethusa   There've been theoretical figures, but I'v...   Aug 26 2004, 08:01 PM
- - KillaJ   My guess would be the lowest level you would be li...   Aug 26 2004, 08:02 PM
- - Siege   According to Arethusa's link, the weapon is de...   Aug 26 2004, 08:07 PM
- - KillaJ   QUOTE (Siege)According to Arethusa's link, the...   Aug 26 2004, 08:33 PM
- - Siege   As mentioned, it is the company hyping it's pr...   Aug 26 2004, 08:42 PM
- - KillaJ   QUOTE (Siege)I wish I had a more concrete answer b...   Aug 26 2004, 09:04 PM
- - Kurukami   QUOTE What I'm really hopping is that they cha...   Aug 26 2004, 09:26 PM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll)QUOTE (FlakJacket @ Au...   Aug 26 2004, 10:19 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   AR base damage is 8M, and you can just take a look...   Aug 26 2004, 10:24 PM
- - TheScamp   QUOTE I, for one, welcome our new assualt rifle ov...   Aug 26 2004, 10:55 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Arethusa) hobgoblin, read my post on the se...   Aug 26 2004, 10:59 PM
- - FrostyNSO   I am sorely disappointed that the US gov didn...   Aug 27 2004, 08:31 AM
- - hobgoblin   if you can turn a bullpup the wrong way you can do...   Aug 27 2004, 09:37 AM
- - Bossemanden   QUOTE (FrostyNSO) Velocity has more impact on woun...   Aug 27 2004, 09:55 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (FrostyNSO)Velocity has more impact on wound...   Aug 27 2004, 09:59 AM
- - otomik   The wounding effect of 5.56mm is largely dependent...   Aug 27 2004, 01:39 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (otomik)maybe 6.8mm is a tacit admission tha...   Aug 27 2004, 02:48 PM
- - Smiley   Are the specs anywhere? Like the weight, etc.? A...   Aug 27 2004, 04:54 PM
- - Nath   QUOTE (Smiley) Are the specs anywhere? Like the we...   Aug 27 2004, 05:19 PM
- - FrostyNSO   Location of the shot is the most important factor....   Aug 27 2004, 06:23 PM
- - otomik   QUOTE So what happens to the OICW? Totally scrappe...   Aug 27 2004, 09:13 PM
- - Atrox   QUOTE (FrostyNSO)I am sorely disappointed that the...   Aug 27 2004, 09:20 PM
- - FrostyNSO   I loved the FAMAS, but I've never tried the L8...   Aug 27 2004, 09:49 PM
- - hobgoblin   bipod, longer barrel, 100 round cylinder magazine,...   Aug 27 2004, 10:28 PM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (Atrox)The French are quite happy with their...   Aug 28 2004, 12:16 AM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Nath) QUOTE (Smiley @ Aug 27 2004, 06:...   Aug 28 2004, 01:36 AM
- - Young Freud   QUOTE (Arethusa)QUOTE (Atrox)The French are quite ...   Aug 28 2004, 02:14 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (Atrox)Remember, this isn't just an AR. ...   Aug 28 2004, 05:03 AM
- - KillaJ   The assault weapons ban lifts in what, 2 weeks? D...   Aug 28 2004, 05:15 AM
- - Siege   Ya know - I don't see why not. As nifty as th...   Aug 28 2004, 05:21 AM
- - BitBasher   I expect it'll make no difference except to co...   Aug 28 2004, 05:21 AM
- - KillaJ   QUOTE (BitBasher)Incidentally, I may be wrong but ...   Aug 28 2004, 05:27 AM
- - Raygun   HK broke ground on a factory in Columbus, Georgia ...   Aug 28 2004, 05:41 AM
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