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 Sep 9 2004, 03:39 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 26-February 02 From: UCAS Member No.: 1,015  |
While some of this stuff is unpublished, it is all copyrighted. Copyright goes into effect when something is created. So as soon as I finish it -- before I even hit the "Add Reply" button to "publish" it -- this post is protected by copyright. On the other hand, there seems to be more than a little rule-bending going on WRT this sort of thing (the Shadowrun Image Archive comes to mind). That said, we have as much chance of an official response telling us how far we can push it as we do of WizKids giving prior written consent. |
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Sep 9 2004, 06:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 439 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .se Member No.: 625 |
Who? Me? I never had any complaints that is all I can say.
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Sep 9 2004, 07:44 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The name Shadowrun is copyrighted by WizKids, but it's entirely probable that this stuff isn't. I was more worried about the original authors, as I've no idea what kind of contract they were working under with FASA. ~J |
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Sep 9 2004, 08:40 AM
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Not Cameron Diaz Group: Retired Admins Posts: 472 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Newark, Delaware Member No.: 188 |
In general, all freelance work, no matter the company, is done under a work-for-hire. Very rarely will work ever remain creator-owned, and currently I know of a grand total of one person who has that. Drafts, proposals and such relating to that work is out of our hands. Correspondence or other paperwork (like the contracts themselves) are what I'm more concerned about.
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Sep 9 2004, 05:25 PM
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#130
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
[resume hijack]
I do very much enjoy R.A. MacAvoy's work, and often suggest others read both Tea With Black Dragon and its sequel Twisting the Rope (which, if you like the latter, means you should totally read Cowboy Fang's Space Bar and Grill by Stephen Brust, if you have not already.)
I am aware of the Lightbearer's use of blood magic, but I believe you miss the point (at least as I see it): ALL blood magic is, for most intents and purposes, the same. The act of drawing on the life force to power or boost a magical act. The sole differences between "Life Magic" and "Death Magic" are morality, scope, and the relative "safety" and side effects of both. Taking a blood oath and powering a blood charm and cutting out a victim's heart to reduce drain are all blood magic...they differ only in the aspects described above. [/edit] This reminds me, I need to fix and revise my Blood Magic page. |
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Sep 9 2004, 05:57 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 9-September 04 Member No.: 6,640 |
How can I get my hands on as much stuff of this as I can? Theres alot of posts in this thread, and alot of them are way off topic.
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Sep 10 2004, 02:09 AM
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Indeed. Welcome to DS.
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Sep 10 2004, 11:24 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
I know you guys are having far too much fun with the thread Hijack (And I'd make the suggestion to start upa new post for it, really), but I'd also like to make a few notes...
Any info in those boxes that is not in the official sorucebooks is subject to be changed or ignored. At this point, chances are anything not in an actual Sourcebook is unknown to the writers working for FanPro unless one of us actually submitted the ideas, so even if it was valid at one point, it no longer is. So don;t get too tied up into thinking anything in there is canon or even a valid explanation. At best, it's an interesting look at how some of the material was originally envisioned. Hell, if you heard some of the crap that gets thought up during freelancer meetings and barinstorming sessions, you would likely quit SR to go play another game. There's some whacky, messed up crap that gets tossed out :] And I still want ROb to let me whack Harlequin. Bull |
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Sep 10 2004, 12:00 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
So in other words, if we find anything really good we should forward a copy to all the freelancers just in case? :D
~J |
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Sep 10 2004, 12:51 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
I know for sure if those boxes contain the original notes and e-mail from when Brainscan was being written, they'll see all kinds of crazy stuff that never made it into the book. :D
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Sep 10 2004, 12:53 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I tried to snag Brainscan but it apparently wasn't in the lot. Not sure if that means someone had already snagged it or if was just not there…
~J |
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Sep 10 2004, 02:50 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-July 04 Member No.: 6,455 |
Next page up
Oddly enough, I think we're more or less on the same page, Ancient History -- approaching it from different directions, and with radically different interpretations, but the same page nevertheless. (I may have misinterpreted what you said in your previous post: it sounded to me as though you were arguing that the Lightbearers had rejected most if not all blood magic.) The relevant point in the Aztlan context, I'd argue, is firstly the amount of mana it pulls together in a relatively short period of time, thus creating a spike and drawing the Horrors that much closer, and secondly what this particular use of blood magic is doing to astral space. And I think you've got a camera set on my library shelves. That particular book along with Issola (and of course Aztlan ;) ) has been travelling with me for the past few days. In a slightly different context I'm finding the Jhereg series invaluable, just now. Consider my side of the hijack ended -- even if it did help keep this page active during the dry times earlier :D -- and if anyone wants to discuss what I've been posting further, you can start up a new thread for it. |
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Sep 13 2004, 12:34 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 27-August 04 Member No.: 6,605 |
I tried to transcribe what I still had available to sell off.
Forgive my ignorance related to spelling, game system, and my poor ability to interpret chicken scratch. It's hot in my garage. NAN 1 London Sourcebook Lone Star Double Exposure Paradise Lost Parlainth Shattered Pattern BT Tactical Handbook Star Lord Dragon Hunt Never Deal With A Dragon DMZ Theran Empire Cora Fahd Dragons House of the Sun MW Book 4 Luthien Outline Knights Errant SR Companion Missions Shadows Underworld Denizens 2 Talisman Strange Souls Dead Air Mists of Betrayal Mother Speaks Eye Witness Scars Spector SuperTuesday Threats EarthDawn Notes Throal Arcane Mysteries ED Survival Guide Prelude to War Misc RL Notes Renegades Honor Shogun Adepts Way Horrors Sky Point / Vivane Shroud of Madness Merc Handbook Chaos March Dark Angel Striper Nosferatu Who Hunts the Hunter The Torn Lands Eye of the Rigger Burnt Offering Fade to Black Grimoire Original Anthology Ideopathic combustion Seattle Proof Lethal Heritage Renegade Legion Leviathan Recognition Damned Freebirth Sword & Fire Shadows of War Hot Spots Solaris Reaches Op Flashpoint Black Thorns CityTech Fields of Fire Merc Handbook High Gambit Private Agenda Runfast Terminus Crossroads Tails You Lose Burning Damned if we do Tai Pan Noble House Intel Ops NAN 2 Rigger Black Book Centurion OP Excalubur TRO 3060 4th Succ War Citytech TRO 3057 French BT Unpublished ED Master Rules Malicous Intent The Hunters Impetus of War HeadHunters Exodus Road FM FWL TREK Stuff FM Comstar OP Stiletto Warriors of Kerensky* Crusade Trial of retrobution Parlainth Infected Terror in the skies Sprawl Encounters Prime Runners Harlequins Back Denizens ED Companion Clantroops ED Novel 8 Black Madonna Hearts of Chaos BT Royalty @ Rogues Notes Arsenal DRT ED 6 ED 7 Shoud Lost Tear Jade Falcon Mcarrons Tactics of Duty ED4 Prophecy Legends Blades Killing Glare Just compensation Aztlan Main Event BloodSport Burn Bright CorpSec Lone Wolf Alpers German High Flight Poisoned Memories Day of Heros Battlespace Texas Crucible Blake Avaiation Principate Double Blind Lucifer Deck Somerset Strikers Companion Black Dragon Main Event Blood of Heros TRO Boards Technobabble Clockwork Asylum Test of Vengance Dying Time Call of Duty Forgotten City Boards Mech Sheet Boards ED GM Screen BattleTEchnology Box Vor Stuff Shadowboxer NA Guide Rolling Thunder Circus Imperium 2X5 Shadowbeat Real Life Grimoire 2 California Anthology Damned proof Periphery II BT4 Fall of Terra Shadowplay Ideal War |
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Sep 13 2004, 04:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 1-September 04 Member No.: 6,621 |
ED 6 and ED 7, those would be the Caroline Spector novels, yes?
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Sep 14 2004, 06:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 439 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .se Member No.: 625 |
Prop; what was the asking price for those products a piece? I see I could fill a few gaps in my ED collection there. And as lokugh said are those the Spector novels?
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Sep 14 2004, 09:34 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 27-August 04 Member No.: 6,605 |
I'm not sure what they are. I'm assuming that they are Earthdawn novel numbers, beyond that, I dont know. I have a mountain of stuff that I climb only once a week for paid orders.
Now lets say you buy ED4 assuming that it is the manuscript for EarthDawn novel 4 (I would assume that). When I pull the file for shipment, I take a final look at contents to clear it of any personal or financial documents. At that time, if I discover that it is clearly NOT the novel manuscript you are expecting, I will refund your money. Being that I am now charging more for manuscripts, I'm willing to assure that all manuscript packages contain at least 1 original manuscript (many have 2 or 3)from the editorial process before it is sent. If not, I will refund 100% of the money and cancel the order with apologies. I honestly do not know these product lines that well, I'm a (dont throw anything) BattleTech guy. Originally I was going to recycle all this stuff, but realized that would be dumb after the cash I dumped storing and transporting this stuff over the past 2 years. Because of the chaotic nature of this process, I created an Ebay store. These items are NOT up for auction, but rather plain jane Buy It Now store items. (Not to say some items wont move to auction to promote the store) That way you always know whats available, the price, the shipping, and dont have to wait for me to respond to your posts on various message boards and private message systems. Next week I hope to start putting artwork and layout mock-ups up. http://stores.ebay.com/MechJock-Depot |
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Sep 14 2004, 11:28 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 27-August 04 Member No.: 6,605 |
Great News!
For those interested in archiving some of this stuff into PDF format, I should be getting my hands on a full duplex high speed scanner tomorrow. If it WORKS, I should be able to scan documents at 60 pages per minute at 300 sheets per load. So, if you purchased documents from me, plan on it, or nabbed some stuff from me at Cermak, I should be able to quickly process the stuff for PDF if you get it to me. Now, I'm not certain it would be legal to 'distribute' said electronic documents after processed, but its a great way to archive it for peer review. |
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Sep 14 2004, 02:35 PM
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Something must be wrong with me, because I'd buy these if I had the money. In the cases of the novels, generally for little minutiae details such as the last ambush in Stranger Souls (which reads like Koke actually broke out some dice for it). Cal would have been ... a gift. :evil: But for now, I think I'll just go slink off into a corner and cry. |
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Sep 14 2004, 02:37 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I don’t care how much you hate a sourcebook, no one is allowed to burn these files!
~J |
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Sep 14 2004, 02:42 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
Are people allowed to make public displayes of burning similar looking boxes of blank paper and convey the impression that those are original documents until someone pulls a burning box out of the fire and finds blank paper?
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Sep 14 2004, 02:59 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I suppose so. You’re also allowed to photocopy them and burn the photocopies if you really want.
~J |
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Sep 14 2004, 03:02 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Just as long as you don't mind SR fanboys beating you down for (first) burning original SR stuff and (second) making them think you were burning original SR stuff.
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Sep 14 2004, 06:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
Some of these sound interesting, but I have NO clue what they are:
Eye of the Rigger Sprawl (is this Sprawl Sites?) Technobabble Denizens 2 (what was Denizens 1?) Arsenal (Cannon Companion?) |
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Sep 14 2004, 06:26 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Technobabble presumably is Technobabel.
~J |
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Sep 14 2004, 06:55 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
OMG!!!! I want Threats and 2XS pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty please!!!!!!!
The Abstruse One |
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