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 Aug 30 2004, 10:59 PM
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King of the Hobos  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127  |
Really? Here or on another board? |
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Aug 30 2004, 11:02 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
This board. I think the thread got locked eventually.
~J |
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Aug 30 2004, 11:03 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
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Aug 30 2004, 11:57 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Holy Christ, but that's an amusing thread. :)
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Aug 31 2004, 03:02 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
It is an interesting thread. Have to say I agree with AH in that I always felt that, except for a point or two, Aina worked better as Hecate than Alachia.
And Usmondo still baffles the heck out of me. I really can't imagine Dunklezahn having invited a Heavenherd to the discussion, nor could I imagine a Heavenherd, former Blood Wood Elves, and a Great Dragon all having a nice chat. Also, Usmondo's comments don't really match ones that would come from a Heavenherd in Azania. At the same time, he doesn't appear to work for Mujaji, since he mentions a rivalry with the Rain Queen. So, that leaves me baffled as to what he represents, unless the "Watchers" just keep an eye on what is going on down there. |
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Sep 1 2004, 12:11 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-July 04 Member No.: 6,455 |
For Usmondo, try Mynbruje.
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Sep 1 2004, 12:47 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
No. Well, probably not.
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Sep 1 2004, 12:49 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-July 04 Member No.: 6,455 |
That's what you kept saying to Alachia as Hecate.
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Sep 1 2004, 01:06 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Wait I know! Why don't each of you write a list or support your cases in some way that is meaningful?! That would be so cool, if you're up for the challenge that is...
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Sep 1 2004, 01:11 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
For Hecate, or for Umsondo?
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Sep 1 2004, 01:15 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Well, since we've done Hecate at least fifty times and had an offical answer and since Tenebris just brought up Hecate to invalidate you, why not Umsondo?
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Sep 1 2004, 01:21 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Okay. For my case, I present the fact that Umsondo has no textual references to Mynbruje, Questors, Questors of Mynbruje, or the like. At the very best, one could point out that Umsondo bears at least a superficially similiar appearence to an impartial mediator among those at the Aztlan Conference, which I submit is inconclusive evidence.
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Sep 1 2004, 01:33 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-July 04 Member No.: 6,455 |
Invalid -- for there is no direct textual reference to Alachia in that context either.
I build my case on tone and on respondents, and on manner of response ... but it will have to be on a section by section basis. Give me until tomorrow? |
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Sep 1 2004, 01:36 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Granted. State your case no later than 11:59:59 PST Wednesday, September 1st, 002004.
~J, insufferable since forever |
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Sep 1 2004, 01:39 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Alachia has the backing support of being mentioned in other places in Shadowrun canon, and the word of Lou Prosperi. I will await your response, but I repeat that at best the appearence is superficial.
Ona side note: Hell, we can't even proove Alachia, that's why there's a debate! :P |
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Sep 1 2004, 01:40 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Take your time; we're not going anywhere. Make a thread whenever your ready. <Rubs hands> Nothing better than a little more Earthdawn twisted like a lemon into my Shadowrun tea. |
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Sep 1 2004, 01:43 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-July 04 Member No.: 6,455 |
Another Passion has also been mentioned in SR canon -- and that, temporally just before the Aztlan file.
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Sep 1 2004, 01:44 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Vestrial was never mentioned by name, and some people still dispute that.
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Sep 1 2004, 01:54 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Vestrial, the mad Passion? The one that talks to Harlequin?
Wait, are you saying Mynbruje is a Passion? Using the Matrix! ミンブルユ |
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Sep 1 2004, 01:59 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-July 04 Member No.: 6,455 |
The dragon does. Mynbruje is specifically noted in Earthdawn as being able to move from mind to mind. And I notice I didn't have to name the other Passion.
Edit: I'd never thought to write a Passion's name in katakana before :grinbig: |
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Sep 1 2004, 02:11 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
I'm not suggesting it could not use the Matrix, just that Avatars and Totems using it is a fearsome thought...
The first site receive when I Googled Mynbruje was Earthdawn Japan. |
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Sep 1 2004, 02:19 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-July 04 Member No.: 6,455 |
Last note for today: Aztlan was also the sourcebook with the first hints of the otaku, before Denver was released.
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Sep 1 2004, 02:22 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Didn't Denver and Aztlan come out nearly at the same time? With Denver just before it?
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Sep 1 2004, 03:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 24-February 03 From: The Containment Zone Member No.: 4,151 |
Aztlan and Denver were both released pretty close together, I remember that -- and the product number for Denver is 7212, while Aztlan is 7213....although that is probably more to do with when they were started, rather than when they were finally published.
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Sep 1 2004, 03:34 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
But Denver is still the first book to explicitly introduce Otaku. ~J |
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