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Wonazer
post Oct 31 2003, 04:46 AM
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Crap, I am getting the "No Output" error again. I even reinstalled the software in hopes that would solve the problem. I am going to attempt to reinstall AND delete the host directory after saving my sr3 files. Wish me luck.
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post Oct 31 2003, 05:31 AM
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Nothing worked. Grrr...

I deleted the reg keys, the host directory, and anything else associated with NSRCG.

Does anyone else have any ideas?
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Wonazer
post Oct 31 2003, 05:34 AM
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Ok, going insane here. I just loaded the Archetype Face for S&G. I finalized it and tried to print it and it worked just fine. So, how on earth did I mess up my other .sr3 files??
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post Oct 31 2003, 05:50 AM
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I've tried just about everything I can think of to get the printing to work again and nothing seems to do it. I keep getting the "No Output" message.

McMackie, are you sure there is nothing wrong with the program? A lot of us seem to have this problem...
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Wonazer
post Oct 31 2003, 06:19 AM
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It has to be a problem with the sr3. Or, the sr3 file is getting corrupted by the program itself. It only seems to happen when I try to print a character after alterations. I can print a new character and an archetype but nothing after I load a character, add earned karma, etc...
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mcmackie
post Nov 4 2003, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Nindaru @ Oct 30 2003, 10:34 PM)
Ok, going insane here.  I just loaded the Archetype Face for S&G.  I finalized it and tried to print it and it worked just fine.  So, how on earth did I mess up my other .sr3 files??

Sorry, I was out of town until just recently...
Could you ship me your SR3 file and I'll try to determine what changed / broke?
I'm really confused by the "No Output" message.... perhaps a DAT file is missing in the distribution. I'm testing on my machine with no problem...:(
Email me at: mcmackie<at>hotmail.com
You too Grey please....
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Wonazer
post Nov 5 2003, 03:58 AM
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Done, check your email please. =)

Also, if there is any other file you need sent, let me know.
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post Nov 5 2003, 07:11 PM
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McMackie: I tried using the new RANGE.DAT you sent me and I'm still getting the error. I'll try again in a little bit and see what I can do to play with it, but work is busy right now.
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mcmackie
post Nov 5 2003, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (Grey @ Nov 5 2003, 12:11 PM)
McMackie:  I tried using the new RANGE.DAT you sent me and I'm still getting the error.  I'll try again in a little bit and see what I can do to play with it, but work is busy right now.

Wait one... I'm working on a new version that MAY (cross your fingers) fix it...
:)
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post Nov 6 2003, 08:56 AM
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I seemed to be getting the same error.

I _think_ it was only when I tried to print a character I hadn't previously saved.

More specifically.

When I would save the character, it would then let me print without any problem.

p23.
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post Nov 6 2003, 05:00 PM
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FIXED! :)

That file you sent me worked, so yeah... update your site with it please!
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post Nov 7 2003, 02:36 AM
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Mine worked as well! Thanks mcmackie!!
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post Nov 7 2003, 03:55 AM
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Thanks Grey and Nindaru for sending me your SR3 files.. This allowed me to quickly find the errors!
New version posted 3.62 fixes "No Output" error. The cause:
I had limits no more than 50+ active skills, 50+ knowledge/language skills, 100+ carried gear, or 100+ not carried gear OR the program broke.. No fixed with no limits at all... :)

ALSO:
Side note: The NSRCG program now supports XML/XSL as demonstrated by the two included (now!) XSL sheets.... These means you can build your own versions (if you know how, don't ask me... I don't know XSL) :) Thanks to the kind efforts of two outstanding people: Michael Rowlett & Michal Kumžák...
You can see how you might build your own versions...
To use: select XML output, select in the pull down box SR3-Character.XSL... The resulting XML file can be opened by clicking on it and MS Internet Explorer will render as appropriate...

Please try it out and let me know what you think!
Jacking out.... ;)
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post Nov 9 2003, 06:33 PM
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Problem, when I print to XML using the above instructions, I see a nice blank layout. Good organization, but no numbers, text, nothing.

Anything you want me to send you?
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post Nov 9 2003, 06:52 PM
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Looking at the gear.dat file, it seems like I can add ratings to all of the misellaneous gear by changing the definitions at the top and then fixing all of the gear using that definition. What will it break if I do that?
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post Nov 9 2003, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (TinkerGnome @ Nov 9 2003, 11:52 AM)
Looking at the gear.dat file, it seems like I can add ratings to all of the misellaneous gear by changing the definitions at the top and then fixing all of the gear using that definition.  What will it break if I do that?

Quite a bit actually, for example I have no idea how weapons are named so that category definition is fixed (definition 1 for melee weapons)... If you changed it with no coordination, you could break the program...
It would be better to create a new definition and use that.... Other things, I use cost$ to find cost of an item, if you used another name, I could never find the value for cost...
It might possible to add a new field in a definition that would no impact, ie flavor text but if you want the program to calculate something, it has to be programmed into it....
What prompts this need?
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mcmackie
post Nov 9 2003, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (Nindaru)
Problem, when I print to XML using the above instructions, I see a nice blank layout. Good organization, but no numbers, text, nothing.

Anything you want me to send you?

I just tested it and it worked fine... Did you click on "SR3-Character.XSL"? Then click on the print button...
Then did you goto the XML directory, click on your charactername.XML? If so, your character info should be shown in the web page...
email me if you have more questions :cyber:
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post Nov 10 2003, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE (mcmackie)
What prompts this need?

Well, not need, per se. However, the XML character sheets give a slot for the rating of gear, and it'd look a lot neater if we could put the gear ratings there instead of sticking them all over the name of the gear like it is now. I'll create a few new types and convert equipment that looks appealing (mainly electronics, security, and credstick equipment).
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post Nov 10 2003, 12:58 AM
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rating, hmmm. Yeah, I've been thinking much the same thing... If you wanted to insert a rating field, it would have little impact to the program (I don't use it)...
Here's the hard part: Any category (type) you change has to be changed for all of them... That's why I suggested a new category...
Let me know what you come up with :)
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post Nov 10 2003, 01:10 AM
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Simple solution, I'm using category 21 (Stuff with Ratings) for everything I'm changing over :) Simple and neat.
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post Nov 11 2003, 03:25 AM
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I'm attempting to make a character using Points system with 123 points. It won't let me increase any attributes at all, giving the reason "Cannot raise above racial maximum." Is point broken right now, or do I just have an old version?
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post Nov 11 2003, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE (tanka)
I'm attempting to make a character using Points system with 123 points. It won't let me increase any attributes at all, giving the reason "Cannot raise above racial maximum." Is point broken right now, or do I just have an old version?

No you have to allocate points for attributes on the GEN SYS page. Since you only allocated 6 points, that's all you have to spend.
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post Nov 11 2003, 04:22 AM
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A-HA! That would do it. Silly me not reading instructions. =\
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post Nov 12 2003, 04:35 AM
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QUOTE (mcmackie)
QUOTE (Nindaru @ Nov 9 2003, 11:33 AM)
Problem, when I print to XML using the above instructions, I see a nice blank layout.  Good organization, but no numbers, text, nothing.

Anything you want me to send you?

I just tested it and it worked fine... Did you click on "SR3-Character.XSL"? Then click on the print button...
Then did you goto the XML directory, click on your charactername.XML? If so, your character info should be shown in the web page...
email me if you have more questions :cyber:

Did all that. Blank page. Want me to send you the created XML file?
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post Nov 12 2003, 10:15 PM
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Please send me both the XML and the SR3 files... I'll check it out...:)
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