Aqua Samurai, New idea for a Sammy Options

[Grimtooth]

Had an idea for a marine type sammy.

I created the character with SURGE rules and gave him natural gills. He also has an immunity to a natural poison.

The question is what cyber is good?

I bought the ultra sound sight and high frequency hearing. He also has flare comp and sound dampeners.

Will ultra sound work under water like dolphin or whale sonar?

What else is relevant?

The character won't be a deep water diver, though that could be a possibility. He'll mostly be a reef rat. shallow dives.

He has a degree in marine biology. His hobbies include underwater photography and shadowrunning :spin:

Also are there rules for multiple cyber arms? And would this add to his swimming speed?

[Kagetenshi]

Give him a dolphin steed and a short sword from Death himself.

~J

[toturi]

Whatever you do, do not get bone lacing. It adds to your weight, and do get a weapon that works under water. Low light vision should help, ultrasound will help and remember to get Underwater Combat skill.

[Grimtooth]

Sarcasm not really appreciated

[Kagetenshi]

It wasn’t a serious comment, but I wouldn’t call it sarcastic.

If you want serious comments, the Gyrojet pistol is your friend, as are Demolitions and limpet mines.

~J

[Moon-Hawk]

Yeah, Kage. Don't pick on sea-man! How would you like it if sea-man got all up in your face? Huh?
....sorry. That was uncalled for.

on a more useful note...Ultrasound should work fine underwater. It'll need to be recalibrated for the echo time underwater, but really it should work much better. It's range should be several times farther. You've got all the cyber I can think of as absolutely necessary for aqua-sam.

[Moon-Hawk]

On an even more useful note: It seems there should be cyber or nano ware similar to symbiotes (and maybe symbiotes could do this) that would facilitate the removal of nitrogen and other gasses from the body and help the person acclimate to different depths more rapidly.
Ooh, also the cold environment adaptation from, what was it, SOTA'63? Even tropical water shouldn't be uncomfortably hot, but cold water will be common.

[Grimtooth]

Thank you Moon-Hawk.


The only issue i can see is that he will be one BIG sonar echo out in the water.

Active ping going on all the time.

No other vision enhancers though as the ultra sound will only be used in deeper, darker water.

On the subject of the gyrojet. The seeker heads need a designator. Laser, micorwave, or radar. Which would work best in water? Can the designator be designd for Ultra sound? or would you a different colored laser for water?

[toturi]

[Kagetenshi]

It isn’t full sonar by any stretch of the imagination, so while nonsubtle it’d probably take either someone looking for you specifically or someone in full paranoia mode to notice (or just a scientific vessel, those are annoyingly attentive).

For the seeker heads, a laser ought to work but at extremely reduced range. Seekers probably aren’t the best way to do it. Maybe some variant of the grenadelink to set up an airburst (waterburst) situation, since explosions underwater are so nasty.

~J

[Moon-Hawk]

True. He would be actively pinging anytime he used it.
Low-light and thermo would also be useful. Low-light would be useful at anything below the surface and above absolute darkness. Thermo would be weird, but still useful in unconventional ways.
For the designator, definitely high powered laser. Ultrasound is not directional enough. You couldn't be sure it's following the right echo. Radar and microwave don't penetrate water well enough. Laser is the least of many evils. You'll need a high powered laser, and the range will be cut down, but it's your only option.
I'm not sure what color laser you'd want for water, probably still red, but I'm not sure.

[Grimtooth]

Alright i think i'll dump the seeker heads and the designator.

too complicated to worry about.

[Grimtooth]

Moon-Hawk you mentioned that the pc would still have to worry about depths and its affects.

When do the effects of depths set in?

When is nitrogen narcosis or oxygen toxcicty an issue?

What would be his maximum depth with only gills and a modified (for gills) wet suit ?

[toturi]

Depth effects start is from 0m by Canon.

When safe diving time is violated.

Max depth 15m.

[Moon-Hawk]

Official SR rules for diving are listed in, ummmm, cannon companion? I think? Somebody back me up on this?
The gills help a lot of these problems, but there is still risk when ascending too rapidly. It's pretty tough to descent too rapidly to actually risk being crushed, but very easy to ascent too quick. I was thinking it'd be cool if he had some cyber to help get the dissolved gasses out of his body when coming up so that he could go from a saturation dive to the surface without spending an hour and a half or more to do it.

[toturi]

With only gills, his max depth is only 15m.

[Moon-Hawk]

It's still deadly to come straight up from a saturation dive at 15m. I'm not sure how well the rules reflect this, though. Books at home.

[Botch]

Check out Cyberpirates! it has most of the info.

Tell me if I am wrong, but I don't think the frequency used by ultrasound is expressly stated so maybe you could use one associated with aquatic mammals.

IMO Oxy-rush nanites are the best for diving as they are unaffected by depth mods.

[Chance359]

A few years back TSS did an article called "Seven Samurai" the last one was an underwater operator.

[FlakJacket]

Cyberfins would be useful- also double as hand razors.

[Rev]

There is more stuff about deep sea in target:wastelands.

If there is a low temperature tolerance nanotech mod in sota 2063, otherwise I think any reasonable gm would let you invert the high temperature tolerance one.

Synthacardium and enhanced articulation would be good for some more swimming dice.

[Tanka]

No, not many "reasonable" GMs would allow an inverted high-temperature tolerance. Why? Low-temp requires something to generate heat so you don't freeze to death. Thusly requiring energy. Thusly needing something to constantly put in "food" every time you went empty on energy-creation materials.

High-temp and low-temp are two vastly different things.

[GenoSicK]

If you consider that swimming is the same thing as running, Hydraulic jack would be a killer.

Trasnducer with a radio, so you'll be able to communicate.

Protectiv Covers for the eyes.

Maybe, alternatively, you can see with your gm to create someting equivalent to Kid Stealth's leg. With the same properties : +1 running (swimming) multiplier, +2 power for kick attack.
If you take that, I would recommend quickness enhancement. And you can place the hydraulic jack in it too. And magnetic cyberlimbs would be great on ship's hulls.

Extended volume would be good, mainly for the -3TN fatigues, allowing you to swim for a LONG time, and also for those moments when you HAVE to retain your breath.

Nictitating membrane, to get rid of those mask. (and that can replace protectiv covers)

Synthecardium, for the quick you want in speed.

Digestive expansion, for the fun of feeding with seaweed. :grinbig:


As I think again, the combo, synthecardium, "Kid Stealth", cyberfins, quickness enhancement and hydraulic jacks is the best you can do to swim the same speed you run.


OH ! And don't forget the edge Water Sprite (5 if possible).

[FlakJacket]

[Tanka]