 HMHVV, which source books |
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 Sep 24 2004, 10:07 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 22-August 03 Member No.: 5,530  |
which source books deal with HMHVV rules for pcs if there are any?
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Sep 24 2004, 10:30 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Germany Member No.: 2,102 |
Shadowrun Companion, the Ghoul Chapter, all other forms of Infection with HMHVV changes a PC to a NPC
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Sep 24 2004, 10:38 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 28-May 04 From: Moorhead, MN, USA Member No.: 6,367 |
Uh, Shadowrun Companion? Yes?
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Sep 24 2004, 02:19 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Actually the old Critters book covers this as well. Not sure on the rest.
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Sep 24 2004, 02:40 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
If you're looking for data on HMHVV, I've found the absolute best resources are actually right here. Ancient History has a brief overview of stuff on his site, which is a good starter, and if you look through the archives, you'll find some very in depth information. I haven't found a single, consolidated source that can compare with what's available from our local experts.
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Sep 24 2004, 06:10 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
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Sep 24 2004, 06:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,581 |
Also Subrosa had some excellent home made rules on HMHVV and players playing as one. Unfortunately I dont have a link but perhaps someone else can post the link.
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Sep 25 2004, 03:15 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 22-August 03 Member No.: 5,530 |
yeah that's what i'm looking for, rules to let a character play as someone infected by HMHVV
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Sep 25 2004, 04:24 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Starting out as one of the Infected is pretty much a no-no; you have to be infected during play, at which point the GM can choose to make you an NPC.
Of course, those who /try/ to get infected are like people that want to catch leprosy so they become immune to pain or who think sick people are sexy. A number of the infected really aren't suitable for PCs, lacking higher cognitive abilities. |
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Sep 27 2004, 11:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 302 Joined: 20-October 03 Member No.: 5,740 |
Where is there mention of HMHVV-II?
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Sep 28 2004, 01:02 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
A few places, mainly Paranormal ANimals of Europe. It only affects humans, trolls and sasquatches; and is pretty weird. Humans can catch it from loup-garous and possibly sasquatch, and are rendered sterile; trolls might well only pass it on to their offspring; and sasquatch are catch it from bandersnatch and pass it on to their offspring.
HMHVV-II is weird mainly because it lacks the essence-draining properties of HMHVV and has such weird infection patterns. |
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Sep 28 2004, 01:05 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Ghouls and the Krieger Strain. Other than that, you're right. ~J |
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Sep 28 2004, 01:17 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
AH: It outright kills Orks, but leaves Dwarves as crazed Hobgoblins. Elves aren't mentioned, so that could be interpreted as becoming loup-garous as per Human.
Only Krieger-infected PCs are available at chargen. Depending on your GM and the power of your campaign, it's entirely possible to play HMHVV-infecteds as PCs. (Hell, I played a Dzoo-Noo-Qua for a short while. Wish we'd start that campaign back up... It was much fun.) |
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Sep 28 2004, 01:22 AM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
IIC a loup garou is not an infected anything, it's another class of animal all together in SR.
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Sep 28 2004, 01:26 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
You may be thinking of chupacabra, since that shows genetic patterns similar to HMHVV, but isn't actually infectious.
Loup-garou is explicitly stated as human with HMHVV-II |
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Sep 28 2004, 01:45 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Loup-garou is a Human with HMHVV-II.
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Oct 5 2004, 05:30 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
I'd love a canon reference for HMHVV-2 killing orks outright. You won't find it, since it isn't there, but I'd love to see one. Goblins (not hobgoblins; they're an ork metavariant) are a result of HMHVV, not HMHVV-2. The only strain of HMHVV that kills metas outright is HMHVV-3, and there are signs that this might not be completely true. |
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Oct 5 2004, 08:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 5,935 |
If I remember correctly theres a section on it in Awakenings. I know it's 2nd ed. so you can argue that it doesn't apply, but I'm pretty sure it's there (I'm not home so I don't have my books).
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Oct 5 2004, 11:35 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Some people have found this article from Steve Kenson helpful. :)
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Oct 6 2004, 11:28 AM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
And I'm one of them, Fortune, but just because Steve wrote it doesn't make it canon.
And again, I'm looking for a canon reference. I don't recall anything of the sort in Awakenings (and 2nd editiion or not, it's still canon). If someone can give me a canon page reference, I'd appreciate it. |
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Oct 6 2004, 06:03 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I'm not saying there is a canon reference. I certainly don't recall one. I just posted the link to be helpful. :)
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Oct 6 2004, 09:21 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
And I didn't mean to come across like an asshole, so for that I apologize. I am genuinely interested in a canon reference, though, since I'm working on some stuff and I'd hate to spring things on players if they couldn't exist in the SR game world. I'm quirky like that.
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Oct 7 2004, 12:41 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
It's cool. I don't think you came across as badly as you think. ;)
I seem to recall an essay, a fictional thesis written in a kind of academic style, on the different strains of HMHVV, but can't for the life of me remember where I saw it. |
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Oct 7 2004, 01:12 AM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
There was a section in Threats, but it had nothing about HMHVV-2 being automatically deadly to orks.
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Oct 7 2004, 01:26 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
if it helps, in all my years of playing and running Shadowrun, I don't recall seeing anything about Strain II being deadly to orks.
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