 The Ancient Files: Transcripted, AH annotates. Read all about it. |
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  Sep 1 2003, 05:21 AM
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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935  |
Okay, I'm like really in need of absorbing Adam's ideas to better fix the site, plus I want to tear down the History of the Awakening and re-do it "Echoes of the Crash" style.
Ergo, I have a gift to keep ye occupied in the meantime: an annotated versionof "Magic and Death", the cybermancy transcripts from Cybertechnology. I'll be pleased to correct it if anybody feels they can add to it...or if anything needs clarifying. Except butter. I don't do butter. |
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Sep 1 2003, 05:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 1-July 02 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,921 |
The only thing I can suggest is for you to go back and proof-read it. I'm not terribly interested in fixing your grammar/spelling errors. :) I save that for sourcebooks! |
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Sep 1 2003, 06:24 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I will give that all due consideration.
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Sep 1 2003, 11:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 1-July 02 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,921 |
I do have a serious question. Has it been determined who "infinity" and "omega" are? |
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Sep 1 2003, 11:44 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
No. I can't even really hazard a guess, all we know is one's American (UCAS or CAS) and the other's British. Both are hermetic, neither appears to be a druid of any sort. The Brit has conenctions with the Azanians, and appears generally more well-informed than the American. That's all I can glean.
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Sep 2 2003, 12:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 1-July 02 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,921 |
Am I crazy in thinking that I've seen a conversation between "infinity" and "omega" in another book? Maybe I'm just delirious. |
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Sep 2 2003, 01:55 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
You're likely delerious. Wordsmyth and Lady of the Court; Laughing Man and Ambrose, but no Omega and Infinity.
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Sep 2 2003, 03:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 1-July 02 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,921 |
Okay, I think it was the Laughing Man and Ambrose conversation I had been thinking of. (Which was in Virtual Realities 2.0, if I'm not mistaken.) |
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Sep 2 2003, 03:29 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Da. VR2.0
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Sep 2 2003, 04:54 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
Wordsmythe and Lady of the Court? Which book did they have a chat in?
BTW, nice work...you need to do more of these :P The Abstruse One |
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Sep 2 2003, 05:08 AM
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The Ws/LotC conversation was in POAD: DS. The annotations are interesting. First of all, I thought that in Aztlan Azcapotlzalco was described as a mundane. I can't remember. I'm surprised there wasn't more information on the Azanians themselves. I thought LG's references to the Cabal in Threats were specifically to the annotators of Aztlan, of which this may or may not have spawned the title (IIRC, he quotes this in Threats, too). The cancer comment being a metaphor is pretty obvious, I would think.
The Potomac... That's a damn specific reference. What an interesting reference for an American mage. Of all the rivers in North America... And after nearly a decade I only just noticed this. I'd say we're pretty regional 'round here, so a New Yorker would use the East River or Hudson, Bostonian--Charles, Midwest--Mississippi, etc. Given the situation, and given the time (December '56) that IMO would implicate in general someone at Georgetown University, and specifically a certain professor and Presidential candidate who runs an initiate group in Washington, D.C.--The IOND (i.e., Roz Hernandez, someone whose ties to Aztlan may be closer than people realized). The other person is the chair of the Occult Studies Dept. at GU (Dr. Frazier--a dwarf from L.A. Scratch him.) who was also the magical expert on the Scott Commission investigating the Dunkelzahn Assassination. Hernandez, though, was IIRC one of the first suspects dating back to the publication of the book. However, the British mage refers to the American as a "wise man" for not investigating the Azzies' astral conduits. Scracth Roz. Besides, this mage seems far too naive on too many levels about basic magical principles to be either. My guess is a IOND member in D.C. The connection to Georgetown is probably why they know (about) Jesuits in Aztlan--Georgetown is a Jesuit-run university (North/South "American" Jesuit if you wish to make a distinction with the Europeans). BTW, hasn't the comments about the astral pollution been long tied to theories about the Fovae? |
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Sep 2 2003, 02:00 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
The fovae are theorized to be damage to the pattern of astral space caused by the Blood Mage Gestlat, as opposed to raw astral pollution which would just create a background count.
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Sep 2 2003, 03:07 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
If it helps any, the Brittish mage is obviously a female. Take note of the reaction to the "world's oldest profession" comment. No way a male would react that way to the joke...
The Abstruse One |
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Sep 2 2003, 03:53 PM
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Hey - that was quite an interesting read. :facelick:
But as I have not read very much ED-material, could anyone give me a bit of information about the Cabal? And what is this "destruction of Mu"? Thank you, Drachir |
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Sep 2 2003, 05:27 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Sorry: nobody knows anything about the Cabal. Period. Gut-level reactions place it as a group of IE's, maybe with Theran ties.
The destruction of Mu...ah, well. See, in DotSW it was revealed that the Ring of Fire is a host of interconnected power sites/mana lines, mostly aspected toward Eastern Dragons, because in the lst Age of magic, the eastern Dragons used those pwoer sites to create and maintain a flying island above the Pacific, where they'd meet and greet in peace. At the end of the Age, the mana dropped and so did the island. I call it Mu, you can call it R'leyh or Lemuria or whatever else ye'd like. |
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Sep 2 2003, 06:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
I'm sorry... what? :lick: |
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Sep 2 2003, 06:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
Oh, come on...you know, right? :) |
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Sep 2 2003, 06:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
Actually, I haven't, uh... read the, umm... Shadowrun fiction. At all. Ever. :oops: |
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Sep 2 2003, 07:03 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Actually it also comes up in the original Threats sourcebook too. In this particular case I suggest you avoid the novel like the plague of vampires it contains and try the sourcebook instead.
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Sep 2 2003, 07:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
Yeah, that novel is pretty bad. But it does have Martin de Vries and the vampire conspiracy that Ancient was talking about. :) So be warned, Velocity. Don't ever say that Syn didn't warn you! :)
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Sep 2 2003, 08:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
Heh. :D Thanks muchly guys, I'll definitely take your advice. I sorta anticipated as much, which is why I've stayed away from all SR fiction so far. The covers always look like the cyberpunk (and I use that term in its broadest sense) equivalent of, like, a Harlequin cover: all rippling muscles, leather bikinis and implausible haircuts. I'm referring to the "romance" (another loose application of a word) franchise by the by, not the immortal tatterdemalion. ;) I also haven't read Threats yet--is it all it's cracked up to be? It sounds mighty juicy but us students gotta count our pennies carefully, dig? :) |
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