 Initiation, who can and who can't |
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 Sep 27 2004, 11:51 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22-June 04 Member No.: 6,434  |
A problem popped up during my groups character creation. One of my players wishes to play a shamanist. And after much browsing we have come to the conclusion that there is no real info on who can and who can't get initiation.
of course not owning magic in the shadows is a bit of a minus here. but I get by on grimoire and awakenings. So what are your takes on who can and who can not initiate ? is there any official rule on it ? |
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Sep 27 2004, 12:21 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,222 Joined: 11-October 02 From: Netherlands and Belgium Member No.: 3,437 |
So, a shamanist can definitely initiate, but if you don't have the MitS book, there's no way you should allow it as the GM. Sphynx |
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Sep 27 2004, 01:04 PM
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Not Cameron Diaz Group: Retired Admins Posts: 472 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Newark, Delaware Member No.: 188 |
I'd also be leery of granting initiations at character generation, unless you're playing a high(er) Karma game where the characters have supposedly been on a decent mess of shadowruns.
Anyway, as it has been said, any character who can use magic can initiate. |
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Sep 27 2004, 02:11 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Except Cornish Bards!
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Sep 27 2004, 10:00 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22-June 04 Member No.: 6,434 |
ok, lets add some information to this, the idea isn't to let the player initiate at generation. but as a SL I always talk with my players about where they wish to take their characters. That way I can get future plothooks for the group.
The initiation would have been run after the rules in the Grimoire. Does the rules in MitS differ greatly from the Grimoire ones ? |
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Sep 27 2004, 10:08 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Yes. The biggest change is that you now only gain access to one metamagic at each step on the Initiation ladder. A number of other minor changes have been introduced but that's the biggest one.
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Sep 27 2004, 10:09 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
A bit. Mainly in costs and starting levels. Grimoire: 6 + next level, starting at 0. MitS: 5 + next level, starting at 1. That's base cost right there. Multipliers are as follows. Self: x3 -with Ordeal: x2.5 Group: x2 -with Ordeal: x1.5 Simple as that. Oh, and in 2nd, you got all Metamagics when you Initiate the first time. Period. In 3rd, you have to take them one at a time. |
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Sep 28 2004, 02:29 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
Yes. In addition to what's been said: grade zero is gone; initiating gives you the option of shedding a geas, gaining a magic point and changing your astral signature, or gaining a magic point and possibly learning a metamagic. There is now more reasons to continue to initiate, which IMO is a very good thing. |
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