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post Oct 25 2004, 08:48 PM
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that said, i don't think most people (myself included) know enough about spy satellite technology for the SOTA:64 rules to ruin much suspension.

a public search on Google will reveal the following:

"spy satellite with a 10 cm resolution, you can discern a soft-ball sized object from several hundred miles away. Using the satellite, you would be able to see the home run that causes the Yankees to win the World Series."

That is old technology, and spy satellites today have at least 5cm resolution...they can easily pick out objects on the ground that are less than a foot in length...

today, there are commercial sats with a resolution of 25cm...

possible?? oh yes...

on a different thread, both Pakistan and India have nuclear weapons programs and missile delivery systems - they're like the US/USSR of the Cold War and are always a hair's breadth of going into nuclear war...

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post Oct 25 2004, 08:59 PM
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You won't be able to see that home run this year :grinbig:

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post Oct 25 2004, 09:09 PM
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hehe yeah....i like the Mets better myself... :P
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post Oct 25 2004, 09:35 PM
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on a different thread, both Pakistan and India have nuclear weapons programs and missile delivery systems - they're like the US/USSR of the Cold War and are always a hair's breadth of going into nuclear war...

Oh good. I thought I was hallucinating for the last seven years.
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post Oct 25 2004, 11:34 PM
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I think it was more the "Oh and there was a nuclear exchange between these two countries that we just didn't mention before now." Now I know you can't foreshadow everything and that you've got to work around what the previous writers have left you with, but it's just a bit jarring and also doesn't really seem to add anything to the game. :/
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post Oct 25 2004, 11:49 PM
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Well, I imagine it will when SoA comes out.
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post Oct 26 2004, 04:52 AM
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I was just wondering, since it seemed rather straightforward with the other cities. In Old World Magic, one of the "Most Important Universities" lists Madrid. MY question is: Which university in Madrid? The Complutense? (I assume this would be self-evident if I owned, or even read, SoE).
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post Oct 26 2004, 04:55 AM
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nothing in the Madrid section of SoE.
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post Oct 26 2004, 05:07 AM
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Goodie.

Although I guess there's a reason Salamanca's not mentioned.

BTW, this is one of the funniest lines I've read in a SR book
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Hence the creation of theurgy, a variation of hermeticism purged of pagan references and infused with Christian symbolism (emphasis mine).
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post Oct 26 2004, 05:12 AM
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QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)
BTW, this is one of the funniest lines I've read in a SR book
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Hence the creation of theurgy, a variation of hermeticism purged of pagan references and infused with Christian symbolism (emphasis mine).

:rotfl:
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post Oct 26 2004, 05:18 AM
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Actually, now that I think of it sitting here--This was a really funny book.

My enjoyment of SR is much like my enjoyment of The West Wing--there are things that are dead serious and others that are patently absurd. Neither reflects reality, and the ones who are most acutely aware of it either hate them for it or don't care because it's fun. But what has made them, in my mind, is that they are ultimately infused with a great deal of humor that makes it all okay. There was actually a bit of a drought, but...

You brought the funny with this one.

Maybe if they do the same on the West Wing I might keep watching past Thanksgiving.

Anyway, we now return to me hijacking the thread about the book, which I've just about finished (I saved Prison for last).

One of the things that I think is interesting is the whole set of criticism about the book's direction to "Screw the mundanes." Well... I think that Games of State reflects almost an antithesis to this. With magic in the world, they could have really screwed mundanes, but they reigned in the screwing pretty well. It didn't even seem that far of a stretch from what will (or should) probably happen given the level of technology. But I mean, gee... Who'd have thought that magic in espionage would be subtle?
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post Oct 26 2004, 02:24 PM
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On spy satellites in SOTA64 (I've only read the first chapter) the initial impression given is that they are quite uncommon, though there are a fair few listed on the chart.

I had always considered that by 2050+ spy satellites (of variable quality) would be widely distributed with most nations, megacorps and media corps having them.

If you consider that people take holidays in space and with the further miniaturisation of electronics, it would be fairly cheap to have your own spy bird up there. Present spy birds are usually pretty small in our time are they not?

Also, the Setup Time listed on the spy-sat table, is this the time before one becomes available for use?
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post Oct 26 2004, 03:45 PM
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(Quick aside-- for those who haven't noticed, the "forums-temp" line is gone, perhaps meaning a new SOTA64 sub-forum will arrive soon. Bravo to the intrepid forum-fixifiers--"fixers" has another meaning here, and I wanted to be clear about it)
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post Oct 26 2004, 04:08 PM
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For the folks interested in the Euromagic traditions, especially the Norse stuff, I'd like to take a moment to pimp one of my favorite movies. Go ye forth and rent or buy The 13th Warrior if you have not already done so. Great stuff, and finally a chance to pimp it in relation to Shadowrun....
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post Oct 26 2004, 04:16 PM
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I have no idea why so many people dispise that movie. I thought it was rather cool overall, and the characterization between all the different warriors were great. Even if one of them was Antonio Banderas.

The scene where the small, old Herger was toying with the tall, young, red-headed viillager was fantastic. :)
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post Oct 27 2004, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)
BTW, this is one of the funniest lines I've read in a SR book
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Hence the creation of theurgy, a variation of hermeticism purged of pagan references and infused with Christian symbolism (emphasis mine).

I was trying to do something slightly tongue in cheek but not too blatant to convey the street witch's feeling regarding Christian magic. I didn't really think anyone would even notice it, what with all the noise regarding the rules. I was starting to wonder if anyone was actually looking at the fiction when I noticed someone picked up on Jon Szeto's Milton reference. There's hope yet! ;)

BTW - I really shouldn't have forgotten before but special kudos to Shane Coppage for the way he plucked that great illo of Howler right out of the text. It's exactly the way I had pictured him.
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post Oct 27 2004, 02:37 AM
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Never underestimate a fan of Pagels.

Anyway, it could be worse. One of my comments was going to be about the references to NA shamanism until I stepped back and realized it was, you know, fiction. And then I smacked myself because I was being stupid.
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post Oct 28 2004, 05:08 AM
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The Link club could have been much cooler if they used simsense instead of your run-of-the-mill augmented reality, so you can cherry pick the clubgoers you want to see or just overlay the whole club experience in something more... personal. Meanwhile the club itself is just a giant box.
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post Nov 5 2004, 03:29 AM
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I don't get the part about Matador being hired by Argus, unless he didn't know, because in Fields of Fire Matador was talking trash about MET2000 with the tone of someone with a personal grudge.
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post Nov 5 2004, 06:12 PM
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(insert random obligatory comment about what a "true professional" Matador was to be able to set aside personal feelings and gut reactions, and take a job anyways)
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post Nov 5 2004, 07:53 PM
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On the other hand it doesn't explicitly say he knew he was working for Argus...
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post Nov 5 2004, 09:39 PM
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Well, yeah. I don't know enough about his death to have presumed that with much confidence.
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post Nov 7 2004, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE (Patrick Goodman)
Go ye forth and rent or buy The 13th Warrior if you have not already done so.  Great stuff, and finally a chance to pimp it in relation to Shadowrun....

Plus Ahmed obviously has the Linguistics and Animal Empathy powers, and possibly the Attunement metamagic, from the way he handles a horse and picks up the lingo so quickly. *Nods sagely* ;)

On a slightly more sensible note, with the Eidetic Memory power I can't remember whether it says one way or the other, but wouldn't it apply the same benefits and a Mnemoic Enhnacer?
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post Nov 7 2004, 01:30 AM
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No, not any more than a Perfect Memeory Edge does.
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post Nov 7 2004, 01:41 AM
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Odd, since Eiditic seems to just be a souped up version of the mnemonic enhancer. Ah, but what am I doing bringing logic into this? :)
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