 [Edges & Flaws] New and Used, SR:Companion & Revised SR: Companion |
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 Oct 8 2004, 12:48 PM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775  |
It's simple, really: two pistols really aren't that great, and they sure as hell doesn't compare to, say, an assault rifle with 10 points of recoil comp. The recoil rules, even for an 8 point ambidextrous character are less than forgiving. In the end, akimbo's nice, but it isn't really worth 6 build points (or 30 karma in BeCKS) for the gimped version, and in no way is it worth 8 build points (or 40 karma in BeCKS). |
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Oct 8 2004, 12:53 PM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,317 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
Obviously you haven't meet Mr. Akimbo (Ambidex 8 ) Adept who uses SMGs with a hell of recoil comp who doesn't have to care about recoil of either weapon as well Sidenote: Ever noticed that recoil in SR3 counts per same combat phase not combat round? |
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Oct 8 2004, 12:58 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Given how little it takes to compensate a single point of recoil, a brace of pistols is extremely effective. Take two induction pads and a smartlink. When you need to be accurate, use one pistol. When you need volume of fire, use them both. This works even better with SMGs, where you have the opportunity to lay down suppressive fire with both when the going gets tough.
I'd never take Ambidex 6 with a ranged character. 8 is so much more worth it. ~J |
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Oct 8 2004, 02:51 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,722 |
Me, I was thinking the Ares Viper in burst-fire mode with IGV-II to negate one burst's worth of recoil from each weapon. But paired Savalette Guardians (especially if you can afford APDS ammo) would also work a treat in the heavy pistol line, and that's even before you get to SMG's.
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Oct 8 2004, 03:12 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
You do realise that the Guardian fires a burst as a Complex Action, rather than the Viper's Simple Action burst-fire mode, don't you?
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Oct 8 2004, 03:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 8-October 04 Member No.: 6,735 |
My first real character, about five years ago, took ambudex 8. Although the flaws were pretty painful, i always thought it was worth it. Then again i did end up running around with two Ruger Thunderbolts loaded with EX Explosive rounds. (shock pads and gas vent IV.) I would have used APDS ammo, but the GM Forbid it, something about a low power campaign.
The Thunderbolts, though not particularly stealthy, were bloody effective. Ah. Enhanced Reflexes III. That character would pretty much always go first, and four people would die. Made six man strike teams a little less scary. With 12 dice and a base damage of 12S he was lethal. Of course he couldn't find a pizza on the black market if he needed to. - Ajax "You see, with two guns, I can shoot twice as many people." |
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Oct 8 2004, 03:31 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Keep the +2 modifier per target for multiple targets in mind.
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Oct 8 2004, 03:41 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,722 |
Heh, you mean that wasn't a misprint? We always assumed it was, since it seemed to be unique.
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Oct 8 2004, 03:43 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Nope, no misprint. That is the way it was created.
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Oct 8 2004, 04:03 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 8-October 04 Member No.: 6,735 |
he operated on combat pool and fast karms mostly, as a straight adept, he didn't have a smartlink or any top mounted toys. Basically he missed a lot, but when he did hit something, oh man. That and he ran out of bullets really fast. You have to want to kill someone when every time you shoot them it cost you 45 nuyen per shot. Though still not as bad as sniping with a berret, 100 nuyen per shot.
Ajax "You see, with two guns, I can shoot twice as many people." |
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