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Prime Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221  |
My main character is a paranormal researcher who has helped the police on occassion. She is licenced to carry a colt Asp so the police, who know her, doen't hassle her, but there are jobs where you don't want to show a gun or can't.
but I wasn't just talking about myself. I wanted to know if other people had run into this sort of issue. Clearly if you're at a health club, you're not hiding a gun, yes I've been in that situation, but there are so many others where it's going to make things difficult if people know you're carrying a gun. Seriously, think how you'd feel in RL if you know the woman behind you in line at the Mall has a gun on. |
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Oct 10 2004, 02:37 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Man, woman - I can't say that I much care. If someone is behind me in line, sitting at a table for dinner or whathaveyou, if they're not wearing a uniform and the gun is fairly obvious, I'm going to be aware and a tad nervous.
Contrary to international opinions of America, as a rule we don't routinely carry firearms and have shootouts at high noon. License to carry or not, I think a common reaction in today's society would be to call the police - particularly depending on the time, location and appearance of the person. All of which lends weight to why SnowFox's question is a valid one. This is more of a guy's solution, but in a pinch slap a piece of velcro on your belt and on the inside of your jacket. That will keep the jacket from flapping open and exposing the gun and still give you easy access in a crisis. -Siege |
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Oct 10 2004, 04:14 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
Siege what state do you live in?
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Oct 10 2004, 04:15 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Georgia? |
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Oct 10 2004, 04:20 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
Ok so I will take Siege's statement to mean that people in Georgia do not routinely carry guns... This is one Aussie who has seen enough to realize that the USA is not Homogenous enough to make any generalization concerning "Americans"
Not saying the other 49 states have guns as routine but that maybe one or two do (I know from a friend that some parts of Kentucky are almost there, and apparently according to some of his former squad buddies (USMC) texas has bad parts, but I would hazard a guess that most of the other 47 states aren't like that. |
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Oct 10 2004, 04:32 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
There are good parts and bad parts everywhere. I can take you to places in Oz where you wouldn't think of walking around unarmed.
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Oct 10 2004, 04:38 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
No arguements fortune, I used to live in such places...
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Oct 10 2004, 05:04 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
There are plenty of places in the US where gun laws are pretty restrictive and guns are not common - mainly some of the larger cities, NYC being the best example. Also keep in mind that in the US, guns allowing people to carry concealed weapons are consdiderd to be the least restrictive. There are plenty of states where you can buy any semi-auto gun you want, and you can carry it anywhere you want - provided it's visible - but since that sort of things tends to make others uneasy, the great majority of people don't do it. |
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Oct 10 2004, 05:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 22-June 02 From: Parts Without Member No.: 2,897 |
There once was a sourcebook for a game I cannot recall, that pointed out the following (paraphrase):
A nun could probably hide a SAM missile under her habit, but an exotic dancer is going to have trouble concealing even a small knife. Choose your clothing carefully. CC mentions several lines of clothing/armor that have specially added concealed holsters sewn into the lining. Runners can get good mileage out of the "I'm a paranoid citizen" look. |
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Oct 10 2004, 05:53 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The face :P but I understand that one can hardly count on that. As for the topic at hand, I understand it's not an option in many cases but I've found that the best option is often to not carry anything at all and have someone nearby with heavier ordinance that can be called in in case of need. Someone nearby with an assault rifle or even an SMG can lay down enough suppressive fire for a retreat if the person in trouble is relatively close to where the armed person can get to and a means of retreat is nearby. ~J |
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Oct 10 2004, 07:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
You see, if you go to these areas often for runs, then it'd probably be worth it to get a Oral Gun. It's pretty much unnoticeable. Or even a cybergun.
Or heck, rely on razors and claws, Learn martial arts. Instead of trying to find ways to hide a gun, think of other options. If you absolutely HAD to carry a gun in these areas, and were wearing a tight skirt, you're fragged. End of fragging story. |
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Oct 10 2004, 08:09 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,028 Joined: 9-November 02 From: The Republic of Vermont Member No.: 3,581 |
Vermont has the laxest gun laws in the country (which is a source of unending confusion for most of the country, who seem to be unable to fit people who are in favor of both gay marriage rights and gun ownership rights into their partisan worldviews). Anyone over 16 can carry pretty much anything they want, openly or concealed, without a permit. I have, once, seen a random guy in the grocery store wearing a pistol openly. This didn't seem to particularly concern anyone (myself included), but still... once.
There are places in this country where permits to carry are available, but open carry is illegal. The weapon must be concealed. |
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Oct 10 2004, 08:35 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
IRL there are a large host of accessories you can buy to help you hide your guns. Women can by holster handbags. Men or women can get holsters custom made for them that are designed to hide guns in places like under the arm or the small of the back. Use an unloaded real gun or a metal cap gun of reasonable size and play around with yourself. If you wear sweat pants and a sweat shirt, it's pretty easy to hide a handgun in your waistband or tuck one in your socks. The author Gila Hayes has written a book on effective civilian use of pistols, rifles, and shotguns. In that book is a chapter on daily concealed carry that specifically has women & female clothing in mind. |
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Oct 10 2004, 08:38 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
I'd be thrilled if it were one of those cool women who both owns a gun and is competent in its use. There are not that many such women. I blame Barbie, since there is no "responsible concealed carry citizen Barbie" line. |
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Oct 10 2004, 10:18 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
Heh. Well, I know quite a few people who are responsible concealed carry citizens. Most of them are men, but a few women are there.
... Weird part is that most of them are old friends from Ohio. (Recently moved to Alabama for work reasons... Starting to have second thoughts... |
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Oct 10 2004, 10:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
Ok, thinking about it i have created fashion rules.
Fashion 101 -------------------------------- Roll to detemine current fashion trends. Not following these result in -2 to all corprate social tests. Men: To be honest, I can't think of a mans style which would affect consealibility. And they pretty much stay the same. Suits and Kakhis (sp?). Women: 1: Tight revealing dresses. You're screwed. 2: Skirts. No penalty. 3. Leather. Screwed as far as guns go, but switchblades are possible with a +3 TN penalty 4: Casual Bisnuess: (The stuff shown on the linked site above.) 5: Tight-on-top-easy-on-bottom-dresses (Is there a proper name?) No penalty 6: Roll again (Can't think of anything.) I know these suck. Please feel free to improve/post. |
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Oct 10 2004, 10:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
Guy's fashion isn't just limited to what you put down. That's just the current trend.
One of the things you have to keep in mind is the word 'futuristic.' What is fashionable now wasn't about 50 years ago, and what is fashionable now won't be in the 2060s. The current rules of what fashion amounts to do not apply. |
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Oct 10 2004, 10:36 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
And has been for a very long time.
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Oct 10 2004, 10:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
Suits have mostly been considered a necessity. Plus, even the suits themselves have changed with fashion. Compare a business suit today with one from the 1940s. Now, in turn, stop and try to guess how much business suits will change in 60 years.
Also, khakis have only been a recent trend as fashionable for this era. Before that, I can't honestly say they were. Finally, remember this: Each level of society has a different sense of fashion. At this point, it is very noticeable. By their time, with the increase in the differences, it should be extreme. |
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Oct 10 2004, 10:49 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Quite honestly, the main changes I can see since about 1900 in Men's Fashion have to do with the hat and pocket watch going out of fashion.
The hat's a big one, but still… ~J |
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Oct 10 2004, 10:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
Let's not forget the changes in materials, cut, available colors, and changes to accessories. And what about how dress shoes have changed?
Also, one other thing to keep in mind: Not all social situations in the upper class use the same style of clothes. A suit is practical at a formal party, but not at a meeting that happens on the beach. And it is not unheard of for certain members of the upper class to make their own fashion just to stand out. |
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Oct 10 2004, 11:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
For all intents and purposes, if you are sent to a corp, told not to have weapons out, and give a frag about fashion, you're probably at a meeting or corprate party.
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Oct 10 2004, 11:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
What type of corporate party? One on a beach inside the building or elsewhere? One focusing on some aspect of some culture? Casual? Formal?
I can't argue with the point about meetings. Now, I'm having some problems revising the list... |
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Oct 10 2004, 11:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
If it was on the beach, you probably wouldn't have to go. There isn't anything to steal you'd have to be physicaly at the party to get, sniper rifles are fun, and there isn't any data to liberate.
I'm assuming inside a mansion or the corp itself. |
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Oct 10 2004, 11:18 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That's patently untrue. Pocket secretaries go to the beach too, as do portable computers.
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