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Oct 20 2004, 08:22 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
I had another run in with those buggers a while back, because I started a new character (hadn't got more than 5 Karma, used up all my cash on useless crap, had useless skills, stupid cyberware sets, etc etc). I decided I'd never get onto the I-90 even near Council Island without partial heavy armor on and weapon drawn. At full defense (9), B6/I4, 3d6+12 Init, BOD 6, a skill of 6 in a smartlinked Ares Predator, using the ultrawimpy settings, I figured I'd at least get away from the fuckers before I get slaughtered.
I guess it was narrative imperative that I hit "east" a few too many times traveling to Council Island. The ganger killed me with the first shot. However, I'd taken other precautions and bought 2 DocWagon Platinum Modulators at chargen. They saved my life and took the modulator away because I had no money on me yet, after which I just bound another and walked slower to Council Island. I'm finally starting to get into the system now. The idea of communicating with strangers in a strange place about illegal stuff on a radio still seems pretty darn weird, but soon I think I'll feel confident enough to start socializing with other players for real. Playing SR with near-canon rules for the first time, everything seems really weird. For example, I was just slaughtering rats and deranged ghouls in a ship (I'd finished 8 milk runs so far, I felt like I needed a time out). I was killing them with pistols, and even with the 15 and 25-round magazine capacities, I wasted 9 kilograms of ammunition on maybe 20 mobs. I pity people who use pistols with less than 8-round magazine capacities. This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Oct 20 2004, 08:25 PM |
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Oct 20 2004, 08:51 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 10-September 04 Member No.: 6,649 |
Er, talking about illegall stuff on the radio is rather frowned upon, unless you're being real subtle or metaphoric about it. Not to mention it could get the cops on your tail. That stuff is better reserved for face to face meets.
They only changed to floating point weights a few months ago, so a lot of small things still weigh zero or 1kg. SR canon weights tend to be too heavy for weapons in general anyway. |
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Oct 21 2004, 03:44 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Even if nothing you mention in itself is illegal, anybody other than fellow shadowrunners who are listening might see through the subtleness and metaphors, triangulate your position, and come get you. Still, I can see the need for some method of communicating, because chat channels certainly would break character.
I think either someone should correct the Awake2062 FAQ regarding trainers, or people should stop killing the firearms trainer all the time... This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Oct 21 2004, 05:17 AM |
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Oct 21 2004, 08:59 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Right... So, I run into an openable manhole. I open it and peer underneath. How about that, an ork willing to train me in the use of heavy weapons! But hey, look, there's tunnels leading everywhere. Let's peer east. OOPS! Now you're hopelessly lost. And now 6 aggroed ghouls on steroids are charging you! Too late, they ripped your face off, you're dead. Haha, DocWagon cannot find your corpse so you lose all your gear!
QUIT, Destroy This Character Enough of that for now... |
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Oct 22 2004, 11:40 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 9-September 04 Member No.: 6,639 |
Thanks for all the relplies--I'm now wandering around Seattle MUSH as a CovertOps/Face character looking for friends. I was pretty surprised to find that +census reveals an equal population of CovertOps and Sams--go figure. I went through chargen at Awake 2062, but (and I may have missed a menu) it struck me that there was a lot of cyberware missing and whenever I tried to buy Boosted Reflexes I, it gave me III instead.
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Oct 22 2004, 12:22 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Yes, most ware and equipment, and I guess Adept Powers and Spells and everything else is missing from chargen in Awake2062. I guess that's to keep the power level of starting characters down and to promote general character types.
This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Oct 22 2004, 12:33 PM |
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Oct 22 2004, 03:34 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 22-October 04 Member No.: 6,781 |
To Aust,
This thread was created help people find good places to play Shadowrun online. I think everyone here understands your complaints. Why not give other people the opportunity to speak? All you are doing is flooding the thread and thus the attention span of readers, much like the average troll. So you don't like Awake 2062, okay. You are entitled to that opinion even if I believe your comments are grossly exaggerated, mistaken, and/or disingenuous. To Everyone, Awake was originally a Hack and Slash mud with some Shadowrun flavor thrown into the mix. Over the years it has slowly evolved away from that and it is continuing to do so. The Build Team is still rebalancing the thousands of badly built, and horridly over statted mobs left behind. Granted the level of power that is available to players still forces us to make mobiles more leathal than their tabletop counter parts. But the days of mobs with 20 in firearms are over, just as the days of players soloing T-birds while naked are over. This gradual standardization and canonization applies to mobiles, autoquests, gear, nuyen, karma, player characters, and character generation. It is a direct product of the changes in staff and the playerbase. All readers are invited to log on, and find out for themselves. Even if you don't like what you see, you might want to check in again a month or two later as changes progress. |
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Oct 22 2004, 05:20 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
I hate the fact that rampaging superghouls are all over the sewers, and I hate the fact that several areas are designed to loop and force you to get lost, regardless of backtracking etc. I hate the fact that you can suddenly be attacked by the weirdest monsters while walking in very safe-looking areas.
But there's a whole lot I like about the game. The fact that it doesn't allow you to get at all (or even most) of the options a canon SR3 starting character has is not a bad thing, just different. The autojohnson system is great for getting people to learn the areas. |
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Oct 22 2004, 06:05 PM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Gerhal - interested in writing an article about Awake 2062, like I outlined in my above post?
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Oct 22 2004, 07:29 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 22-October 04 Member No.: 6,781 |
Sure.
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Oct 22 2004, 07:36 PM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Please include in the article that you should expect to recreate characters a few times due to general bizzareness. For example a list of Adept abilities that don't actually work would be nice. Frankly i've found it more than a bit fustrating. Part of that is the realtime typing, I'm not really use to that. But another part of it is running around trying to find an autojohnson. As far as GM engineered runs, I have yet to see any announcement of them. Apparently they are the only way to use one of my 1 PP abilities (Nerve Strike), and it isn't clear to me exactly how that's going to work at all. *shrug* My first character, was total crap. Custom create mage/shaman is flat out broken because you won't be able to learn any spells till long after you need them. To boot there was some erroneos text during character creation, i ended up unable to talk to any PCs IC. Actually in general i've found that runs are getting me in way over my head long before i'm allowed to train any skills. Unless I re-enter character creation area to up my skills/stats? It looks like i could do that, but not sure that is intended. Maybe there are other ways to meet with people. I did happen to meet a few people last night. However they were basically sitting around eating and drinking. *shrug* Overall I find Awake 2062 to have a brutal learning curve. There are many, many undocumented pitfalls that have to do text descriptions not following what is actually coded behind. I happened down the wrong road and was promptly blown away by a TANK! Thankfully it seems impossible to die? In fact it would seem cheaper to NOT have a Docwagon contract, an least to fully die instead of getting picked up. If you have a Docwagon wristband BONDed and they find the time to pick you up they'll take between 1.5k and 4k out of your account. However if you flat out die you come back at the Docwagon station but without your account emptied, the only downside being that the shadowrun job you had is cancelled. Frankly having the run cancelled is starting to look like a good thing instead of a downside for the only run I seem to be able to get right now. Not sure if this is a scripted progression where i'm working through a list, and i'm down to the toughest one(s). But the one I'm on now, well the Johnson gave pretty damn meger clues. Actually no real clues at all. So where I 'think' I have to go is a deathtrap for me. I'm trying not to complain too much here, free is free and all. But overall people starting in this should expect a HIGH level of fustration. Just a little example: Some shops 'closing' at night, while kinda a nice atmosphere thing, is incredibily fustrating. In the end it really just eats my RL time. |
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Oct 22 2004, 08:00 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
I'm pretty much with blakkie. More information about the character generation system and what to do and what not to do as a new character would be essential. I'm currently going with my 6th or 7th character (all the earlier ones were utterly useless) and finally learning some stuff.
You're not dying completely yet because you're a newbie (you don't have 26 Total Karma Earned yet). Until that point, yeah it'd probably be cheaper not to have a (bonded) DocWagon bracelet. Just you wait until you get that 26 TKE, you're going to be thanking whatever divine entities you believe in for that Platinum contract. |
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