Gun ID question Options

[Nikoli]

I realise it's probably not an accurate weapon and more likely a "hollywood gun" but what was the pistol that Martin Lawrence's character Earl in National Security using, I'm referring of course to "Earl jr."

It seemed to be a fully automatic pistol but with a rather large ammo acapcity (given the extended clips he kept feeding it)

Just wondering cause I'd love to see a pistol like that in SR.

[FrostyNSO]

I havn't seen that movie for a long time but I think is was an HK USP (heavily modified)?

[Austere Emancipa...]

[Edit]Scratch that. From another trailer, it could be a USP. The SIG two-tone finish looks different, and the front end of the slide on the gun in the movie has similar angles as the USP. It almost looked like it had a tac-light on the accessory rail. I have no idea, and I'm not going to bother downloading such a crappy movie for the gun alone. Sorry.[/Edit]

This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Oct 18 2004, 04:21 PM

[Arethusa]

I never saw it, and if all goes well, that's going to stay that way, but if this shot (and it is the best I can find through Google) is what you're looking for, I'm guessing some modified USP. It's a bad angle and low res, though, so that's really a shot in the dark (no pun intended, of course).

[edit]

By the way, care to explain what you were doing watching this thing in the first place?

This post has been edited by Arethusa: Oct 18 2004, 04:18 PM

[Austere Emancipa...]

Yup, that looks like a USP9 or USP40 -- it hasn't got the Custom Sport/Expert/Elite/Match/Tactical sights, and based on what the ammunition looked like I'd say 9x19mm or .40 S&W. Light on the rail. Absolutely nothing special about it apart from the extended magazines.

[Nikoli]

I have a "thing" for buddy flicks and was getting desparate for Netflix choices.

[BitBasher]

It was on cable, it was free and it's competition was "The banger sisters" and "home fries".

[Raygun]

Hmm. The link appears to be dead. Can't see it. IMDb has a pic of him car jacking someone with an S&W 360, though.

If it's a full-auto USP in the movie, it's a prop. They don't exist in reality. I do have a USP machine pistol on my site, though. Totally fictional. The picture is a Tokyo Marui model, from what I've been told.

[Nikoli]

Thanks Raygun, illegal mod or pipedream was what I was thinking. I just like the idea of cops with fully automatic pistols firing at the bad guys

[Wounded Ronin]

Ruger Thunderbolt?

[Nikoli]

too obvious.

[Shanshu Freeman]

[Nikoli]

Heh

[Shanshu Freeman]

[FlakJacket]

Since we already seem to have a mystery gun thread going, I'll just post this here. Don't suppose anyone could identify what gun - picture one, picture two - this is? Not the best shots I know but it's the best I could get. Thanks.

[Wounded Ronin]

It just looks like some kind of magnum revolver.

[Arethusa]

That's a Smith & Wesson L-frame of some sort. Beyond that, the damned things all tend to look alike and there are a metric fuckload of variations, so good luck finding the exact model.

[edit]

Ronin, what do you mean by "magnum revolver?"

This post has been edited by Arethusa: Oct 18 2004, 11:13 PM

[FlakJacket]

L-Frame you say?

It was the trigger area that was getting me- rather than being completely smooth it has that bit that dips down on the top. From the pictures I was able to find I couldn't see anything that matched.

[Arethusa]

If you go here, I think you'll see the resemblence in the bottom two. Have fun tracking down the exact gun, though; the S&W site seems to have been built around its own special brand of customer appreciation.

[FlakJacket]

It was more for a character concept rather than a burning desire to find out the exact make. I figure I'll just call it Heavy Pistol, .357 caliber, six rounds and a five or six for Concealability.

[Wounded Ronin]

[Raygun]

That revolver is a Colt for sure, but it looks to me like an Anaconda (.44 Magnum). The cyclinder and frame behind it seem very long. But maybe I'm just imagining things. It could be a Python (.357 Mag). Either way, it looks like a custom 3" barrel, as the lug under the barrel is cut at an angle, which has never been standard AFAIK.

The major distinguishing feature from the S&W revolvers is the hump in the frame under the trigger pivot pin (right above his finger in the pictures provided). The S&W's trigger guard is more rounded.

[Arethusa]

You're right. My mistake; it generally looks a lot like the S&W's I linked to, but that frame cut around the trigger is really distinguishing if you know to look for it. Has to be completely custom, I guess.

[Raygun]

It's a Colt King Cobra in .357 Mag. The angle-cut barrel lug and the solid rib are the giveaways. Duh. The barrel definitely seems longer than 2" and shorter than 4", and I don't know if they ever made a 3" barrel for it so that could still be custom. It's still got the standard Pachmayr grip, though.

[Raygun]

So I finally saw National Security on cable recently (thanks for making me sit through that one!). The gun in question is definitely a Glock with a stainless slide (Caspian makes them; Will Smith had a couple in Bad Boys 2). But there's something odd about it: it didn't have the Glock 18 selector switch on the left side of the slide, nor did it have the FSSG selector protruding out of the rear of the slide. So either it was a model, or a gun modified to fire full-auto only.

Now that that's out of the way, I've got one for all of you. I was watching The Transporter last night, and there's a scene where he's doing a get-away gig for a bunch of bank robbers (or something), but when they jump in the car he hesitates, telling the lead robber guy that what they want him to transport wasn't part of the deal. The lead robber guy sticks a pistol in his face, and I'm kind of stumped as to what pistol it is. It looked an awful lot like a SIG-Sauer P220, but it had a thumb safety (ambidextrous IIRC), which the P220 does not have. I've looked around for copies of the P220, (Astra, Zastava, etc...) but have yet to find out exactly what kind of pistol it is. The only thing I can think of that looks close is the Daewoo DP51, but I don't think that's it.

Any other ideas? Might be a good idea to keep in mind that the movie was filmed in France. I think I might rent it (never have seen it all the way through anyway) and get some image caps of the gun.