Horrors Options

[LinaInverse]

[DocMortand]

Yeah...throw you in jail for "Unlicenced Horror Slaying" which then provides clues that LS is infact being controlled by a major horror...

[LinaInverse]

Sort of like a duck hunting license? :) And most runners and sprawl residents probably do believe that LS is controlled by a major horror...

[Austere Emancipa...]

[LinaInverse]

The one (and so far only) time I've scored on Barret ammo, I got 4 boxes of 10 rounds each (40 shots total). I'm not objecting mind you; I accept that it'd be hard to get. And unfortunately, money's very tight right now; spending 110/shot would bankrupt us right now (I assume you're talking about "money is no object" option).

I haven't seen SOTA:64, so I can't comment on that.

[Kagetenshi]

[Austere Emancipa...]

Yeah, I'm talking about the optional rules about increasing cost and the time to get the item to reduce the TN. However, since you're already paying 100/shot (200 per box, Street Index 5), the extra 10 shouldn't be a huge problem. Not when you're trying to defeat a big-ass monkey that's harder to damage than a similar-sized block of rolled homogenous steel.

Kage: Yeah, that'd be one way to do it. Another would be WALLHACKER.

[DocMortand]

Ah, nothing like a little dark humor to liven up a Horror - you can do a chest-bursting alien impersonation by slashing your way through it's chest.

Um...what organs are inside a Baggi anyways? I mean, would you have to engage in melee combat all the various organs once you get through the walls of the stomach? And would the organs get "friends in melee" bonuses? *cackle* Two kidneys, get a +1 melee bonus ;)

[LinaInverse]

True Austere, good point. That, and the legal issues, are the reason why my poor rifleman hasn't had a chance to fire his proud Barrett (to be nicknamed "Charlize").

[Req]

In terms of sheer physical badassness, most of the un-Named Horrors aren't actually so scary. We make up stats for them, but they're doable. It's the psychological factor that makes them fun in games. Like I say, use them as a plot device for players that like that kind of game and you'll do great. Or, y'know, Harlequin's Back - which is pretty much all about Horrors, you just don't fight them directly.

It's no different than having your runners the unwitting pawns of insect spirits (Queen Euphoria) or working for Great Dragons (Survival of the Fittest) or working for or against an all-powerful AI (RA:S) or any of the other adventures involving Big Names and Overwhelming NPCs out there.

If you're not into grit, overwhelming odds, horror, whatever, then they probably have no place in your game. Once you're regularly killing Horror spawn, they're just another collection of numbers, and they're not very interesting.

But that's just the way I run 'em.

[Kagetenshi]

[DocMortand]

Okay, who or what is wallhacker?

[Herald of Verjig...]

Someone will probably post th link before I hit submit, but it's a twinked out troll with dual cyberspurs designed for the sole purpose of surpassing the 32 power limit that usually applies to sane gaming.

[Austere Emancipa...]

I think the Damage Code was at 43S (STR-maxed, drugged adept cyclops with a successful Boost PhysAttr:STR). 30M would be plenty, though.

The original Wallhacker only did 28M with 25 dice to roll. The main purpose was to show how it might be broken that you get both +50% Power from using two cyberimplant weapons in addition to the extra dice from the offhand weapon, as well as to bust APCs with melee weaponry. Wallhacker 2.0 Beta was a cyclops, discussed here.

This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Nov 4 2004, 10:54 PM

[Kagetenshi]

But that means from the inside we're into Deadlier Overdamage :grinbig:

~J

[LinaInverse]

Woah...can this can be accomplished by a starting char or are we talking about beacoup extra cash/Karma? If the former, then I know who I want as my next char... :vegm:

[DocMortand]

[LinaInverse]

[Austere Emancipa...]

Here's a quick, basic build I threw together:

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Troll adept
B 11 (12)
Q 5
S 17
C 1
I 1
W 3
E 5.8
BIO 1.6
M 5
R 3
Init 3+1d6
Edges/Flaws:
Ambidex-6, Bonus+Exceptional Attr: Str, any flaws you like
Skills:
Cyberimplant Combat/Handblades-5/7
Cyber:
2 Dikoted Handblades (Weapon Foci would be great, but you probably can't afford them)
Bio:
Muscle Augmentation-4
Adept Powers (all Geasa'd):
ImpAttr:STR-2, ImpPhysAb:CIC-5, Counter-Strike-4

He'll be dealing 29M with 18 dice on the attack, 22 dice on the defense, + CP. If you can get one F6 Weapon Focus Dikoted Handblade (640,000 nuyen) and bond it, that's 24 dice on the attack and 28 on the defense.

This is just the basic stuff necessary, you can get a whole lot meaner with a cyclops, drugs, and the BoostAttr:STR adept power.

If there's any other questions pertaining to the Wallhacker, or interest in trying to upgrade the template, start a new thread for it so we don't completely steal this one.

[Kremlin KOA]

try this

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"Ripley" Battle Walker

Type of Vehicle: Extra Large Walker.
Handling: 2
Speed: 60
Body: 4
Armor: 12
Signature: 5
Pilot: 3
Sensor: 5
Cargo: 8
Load: 205
Seating: 1 Cockpit

Features:
2 Mechanical Arms (Strength 22 each with Dikoted Hand blades on each)
Smart Materials
Structural agility 1
Drive by Wire [1]
Full Enviroseal + overpressure option
20 man hours life support.
2 spotlights
2 spotlights

2000kg winch

Speakers

Weapons:
Mini turret with LMG w/ 1000 rounds of Ammo
Mini turret w/ Great dragon ATGM with 3 shots
hand blades on arms 26M damage (37M if you use the paired cyber weapons power rule)

Key notes
vehicle armor 12 means baggi can't hurt it
37m attack means I can soo hurt baggi
and the bous dice for mechanical arm operation being an ambidextrous skill is sweeeet
that and the LMG can be given APDS to really spoil that horror's day (or leave with regular for killing gnashers)

[Kagetenshi]

And Lone Star will so smack that thing down. Hell, I'd respond to that before a Baggi.

~J

[DocMortand]

Kage - Yeah...couldn't you do an Ewok on it? ya know, logs tied to buildings, logs put on street....

[Kagetenshi]

[Kremlin KOA]

Kage, doc hell I'd sell it to LLonestar so they could deal with the baggi plague

[Stormdrake]

Does any one know if the Shemedi (?) are some kind of horror or just something like the insect spirits that shows up before them? The same question can be asked about wraiths. The baggies power to animate the dead will be useful to install a sense of old time movie horror and while there is no real corresponding power in shadow run they are supposed to be outside of the pale. So to speak. If unchecked images of zombie choked streets come to mind. Obviously you don't want this but the potential of it happening would add a sense of urgency and motivation to the players actions.