 Decking and rigging, SO, I've just become a DM and... |
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 Dec 12 2004, 07:40 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 12-December 04 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 6,881  |
I've been playing SR for a while, but I've never been a GM. After going to college and moving away from my old GM I've realised that I never learned anything about decking or rigging. I don't have a clue where to start. I've read through the book on it four or five times and I just can't seem to get the idea's to stick. It would be really nice if someone could just help me out with a breif post of a run or something.
Something like if Johhny(low-level deker, just starting) was going to crack into the neighbors line and download his messages. What would he need? How would he do it? What would he have to access and what security would he have to overcome? I would be forever gratefull to whoever helps me out on this. And as for rigging, am I making it more complex then it really is? I seem to try and weigh it down with more rules then I think are nessary. Is it just a few mods to vehicle combat (when useing drones)? It's just another thing I can't get my mind around. |
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Dec 12 2004, 08:02 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
For Decking, you might want to check out The Idiot's Guide to the Matrix Thread.
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Dec 12 2004, 08:29 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 12-December 04 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 6,881 |
Much thanks. Now I feel like a gleeb, But the rigging questions still remain! |
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Dec 12 2004, 08:55 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
The thing that helped me the most with the decking rules was going through the chapter and writing notes. Then I had a quick reference to fly by.
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Dec 12 2004, 09:35 AM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
As I recall, there's a similar "idiot's guide" to rigging as well, though I don't know if it got as good a start as the decking rules did. Here it is (the Search function at the top of the page is your friend. :))
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Dec 13 2004, 07:24 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
Realize right away they are both abstract concepts so there are no "hard and fast" rules for making them high visual. I don't have any threads to point to, but what helped me was I made a few scenarios for myself and then looked up the rules that would explain how they would work. MOre questions come from that which means you get to learn more. I did this with my runners so they could help learn to and gave them all a small karma reward for their help. Atleast the bug's in their heads. |
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Dec 13 2004, 07:42 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Marquette, MI Member No.: 6,667 |
Decking's easy enough to figure out (never had a problem with VR 2.0 and beyond rules myself). The quick resolution rules in Mr. Johnson's book are great for minor jobs (ones that aren't really the focus of the run and so forth).
Hate to say it, but vehiclie combat is senselessly complicated... I tend to gloss over it myself. |
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Dec 13 2004, 08:05 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The two complicated parts of vehicle combat are MIJI and maneuver score. If you spend the time on those or just drop them, it's quite simple. I don't recommend dropping MIJI permanently, though.
~J |
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Dec 13 2004, 09:06 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Prehaps this is a good time to make "Idiots guide to Electronic Warfare"?
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Dec 13 2004, 09:49 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I'd be up for it.
~J |
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Dec 14 2004, 12:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 18-October 04 From: Tujunga, CA Member No.: 6,768 |
Ya, rigging is not that bad, throw in electronic Warfair and you make it a game unto it self. LOL
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Dec 14 2004, 12:17 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Not so much, really. Especially if encryption is used.
~J |
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Dec 14 2004, 12:45 AM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Yeah, with encryption it becomes a game of "theres no way in hell you can pray to pop his encryption in enough time for it to do any good unless you start VERY early!". :)
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Dec 14 2004, 12:50 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
E makes MIJI J!
Even if you start early, rolling three 9s on no more than ten dice plus a few complementary dice isn't exactly a shot worth taking. Even two 7s isn't Good Times™. ~J |
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Dec 14 2004, 03:50 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
manouver score is anything but complicated, you have one value that is stable, one value that change when the gm says so, and then the open test on top. sum it up and go to town...
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Dec 14 2004, 03:59 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
But you have all three of those for all vehicles, as maneuver score only matters in relation to other scores.
~J |
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Dec 14 2004, 04:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 400 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 825 |
And in this case, the person is the GM, or at least wants to know how a GM would do it. |
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Dec 14 2004, 10:05 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
enlist your fellow gamer(s), have him monitor his own vehicle score and tell him the terrain score, then have him roll the open test and do the math for his vehicle. then you do the same for your(s). allso, the SR3 rules contain a bit about more then one vehicle of the same kind (multiple cops and so on) on one side of the "chase". rollfor one and give a bonus based on the number of additional cars. yes the score adds an additional test pr side for every round of combat, but if you want a lean mean combat system look elsewhere, sr is not known for its fast combat system... riggers and deckers are a intergral part of the cyberpunk influence in sr, remove that and you get a overload of magic... |
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