 [MrJBlackBook] Room sizes, wrong german translation? |
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 Dec 16 2004, 01:06 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon...  Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698  |
Two days ago i picked up MJLBB (don't ask for the german title, it's a shame..). It's a nice book with a lot of useful information.
But one thing in the german version confused me: the room sizes of the various sample buildings - so i want to know if they are shall be so huge or if the german translation is just crap. Here three examples: 1. Esprit Industries Apartment (don't know the exact english title): the main room is 10x10 meters, that's 30 by 30 feet.? the living room of the son is 8x6 meters or 24 by 18 feet. a little huge, i think. 2. Das Kutscher-Haus (maybe Kutscher-Building in english?): the living room is ok, but the sleeping room has 27 by 24 feet? 3. Mitsuhama Thaumaturgic Research FAcility (?): the personal bureaus are 9x12 meters or 27 by 36 feet... it would be very nice if someone could post the sizes from the english version :) |
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Dec 16 2004, 06:07 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
Correct. The son has a lot of toys. ;)
"The Carriage House" in english. Correct on the size. Its for a corp exec of Ares. I can see Ares making a "big everything" type of house, including its master bedroom. *shrug*
Yup. Might be for their hermetic circles? Dunno. |
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Dec 16 2004, 06:29 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Ok, thanks a lot.
So the original writers had some weird ideas of rooms, space and houses :eek: |
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Dec 16 2004, 06:35 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I don't know about that. I've been in several houses and even apartments that are quite large ... maybe even bigger than those dimentions.
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Dec 16 2004, 07:45 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I live in a house which is one of the largest i know. We have a living space of 235 square meters, which is quite a lot here in germany. Our biggest room has 45 square meters and if _very_ huge.
So no, i don't think much bigger rooms are common or useful. |
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Dec 16 2004, 09:19 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 24-July 04 Member No.: 6,512 |
I've noticed this when I lived in Germany. Living spaces that germans consider quite adequate most americans find stifling, even claustrophobic. An, of course, vice versa. I'm pretty sure that the living space sizes in Mr. Johnson's little black book were for american quarters, set up for people used to larger lifing space. If you want to translate the spaces to more european ideals, just divide the numbers by 2 or 3, and it should work out about right.
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Dec 16 2004, 11:34 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Hm, never thought about that. Ok, when watching american movies one can see really huge apartments or houses - but hey, that are just movies! Usually they never express reality 100%, don't they?
Guess the US just have lot more space, it's such a wide-open country, so everything has to and can be bigger/ huge. |
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Dec 17 2004, 10:14 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 24-July 04 Member No.: 6,512 |
That's pretty much exactly what it is. My bedroom, for example, is almost 10 x 10 meters, and I am by no means wealthy.
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Dec 17 2004, 11:15 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Äh. Yes. Guess some things are just better in the US.
But at least we enjoy real good beer over here (helps of to forget the claustrophobic houses we're living in :D ). |
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Dec 20 2004, 08:21 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
Hmmm - no offense meant or anything, but this sounds like quite alot for a bedroom, even in the states. Are you sure you did the conversion right? I've visited several middle class residences in the US and Canada, and haven't found the rooms to be that much bigger than they are in Sweden. 10x10 meters. The length of 5 beds on each wall... For a living room this sounds more reasonable (if upper size range) but for a bedroom? I apologize if I'm completely out of it here, but I have a heard time seeing a regular house or apartment with a bedroom that can easily fit three king size beds against each wall in it. Do you really have a 900square feet bedroom? |
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Dec 20 2004, 11:11 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 24-July 04 Member No.: 6,512 |
I do. What I did neglect to mention was that my bedroom is a converted garage. It makes for a large bedrooom, but I've seen it happen in the suburbs often enough that I didn't think to make issue of it before.
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Dec 21 2004, 09:23 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
Ahh - see THAT explains it nicely. =)
(I was gonna use the analogy of parking two-three cars in there...guess that would've been very approperiate) Yes, that isn't too uncommon I guess (more so in europe, although not totally unheard of). |
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Dec 22 2004, 12:19 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Netanya, Israel Member No.: 6,232 |
yeah, thats correct. i live in villa with approx. 350 squaremeters roomspace. thats quite a lot, and i have no friends that come even close to those sizes in germany.
it's pretty comon for young people to live in 30-40 squaremeter flat. that's tiny. conisdering that you have a kitchen, bathroom, sleeping room and you need to house all your belongings in there. think about that. all i say is: "close combat" and "gm: you see a small apartment. while you scan the tiny room for enemies you catch a glimpse of what looks like a detonator-wire and you follow the wire with your eyes until you see the half kilo of c4 stuffed under the bed." just make sure you run as fast as you can ;-) |
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Dec 22 2004, 10:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,528 |
Actually here in germany kitchen/toilet are not included in the "official size" But 45-65m2 in 2 rooms are a quite common size for a flat. Now, the typical modern house is a 1 floor + extended roof afair on a 400m2 piece of ground. Maybe with a cellar, maybe not, total around 100-150m2. Older (pre 1980s) houses can be a lot bigger. In the "old" (1920-1930s) city quarter I grew up in, ground size was 800m2 up and houses where bigger starting around 200m2. Two full stories where not to uncommon. Birdy |
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Jan 12 2005, 12:53 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Shibanokuji Freefall Resort Member No.: 1,043 |
Actually they are. They simply don't count as rooms, that's all. |
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Jan 12 2005, 03:59 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 13-February 03 From: Ottawa, ON, canada Member No.: 4,088 |
about houses actually looking like the movies? yeah, dude.
Im from Canada and I visisted some people in Kennet, Pennsylvania, and there was mansions EVERYWHERE. Every fragging person that lived there was rich enough to live in huge estates. There was surrounding commercial areas and a lower caste of housing, however. But still a ridiculous amount of wealth in my opinion. Wish I was in Germany. |
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Jan 13 2005, 02:29 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
And we have better beer too :D |
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Jan 17 2005, 02:04 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
For reference, BOCA lists 200 net square feet as one person for occupancy purposes in a residential building. The numbers above would thus be large, but not out of reason for the haves, IMO.
~J |
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Jan 22 2005, 02:13 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 17-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Tx USA Member No.: 6,996 |
Holy jesus that would suck... I don't think I've lived anywhere in my lifetime where the average sq.ft./occupant was less than 600. 0_o I probably wouldn't get along too well in Japan or New York, huh? ;) I spent the night drunk at my friend's efficiency over in our college district a couple times. They're like $150/month. The foot of her bed was literally in the kitchen so you could sit on the bed and cook breakfast. :) |
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