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 Sep 6 2003, 02:52 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062  |
I'm reading through Dot6W and have come across the fact that dragons call each other by titles. Anyone have... anything resembling a list of who has what title?
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Sep 6 2003, 03:28 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Off the top of my head Orange Queen is Hestaby, Rain Queen Mujaji, Stone Diver Celedyr, Gold Master Lofwyr, Doll Maker Ghostwalker.
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Sep 6 2003, 03:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
Far-Scholar was Dunklezahn
I'm sure Ancient History's files have anything that's yet to be mentioned. |
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Sep 6 2003, 03:50 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
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Sep 6 2003, 04:33 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I have not yet posted anything from Survival of the Fittest, Sprawl Survival Guide, or Dragons of the SIxth World...I want to give them a few months for people to buy their copies, first.
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Sep 7 2003, 09:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 |
I've been around since the very tail end of Deep Resonence. New poster my hoop. I need to stop being such a prick. Meh. |
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Sep 7 2003, 10:42 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
Lofwyr has also started posting on Shadowland as Loremaster since he received the memory gem from Big D's will. He's also been called Golden Snout, but I think was just H being a dick :P
The Abstruse One |
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Sep 7 2003, 11:05 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
We've been debating the Loremaster thang. The whole "well, if Lofwyr is Loremster, who posted from SK Headquarters in PoaD then?"
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Sep 7 2003, 11:22 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,756 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
And as I already said last time I saw this debate, the poster called "Loremaster" in PoaD is heavily insisting that Dunkelzahn is breaking the traditions and that all the people who received items from the Will are not rightful owners. It includes the loremaster title as indicated in SotF introduction. Why the hell Lofwyr would he be posting as Loremaster to say Dunkelzahn had no right to make him the Loremaster ?!? |
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Sep 8 2003, 08:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 24-November 02 Member No.: 3,638 |
I think it was. Lofwyr is called Gold-Master by the other dragons. In the Dragons PDF, this stuff is somewhat explained- the dragons don't call each other by their 'real names' because that would imply a familiarity or intimacy that doesn't exist. So they use the titles- Doll Maker, Far Scholar, Talespeaker. However, mortals don't use the titles, because that would imply that they are on the same level as the dragons. Which makes it all the funnier when Harly either uses titles or deliberately mocks the titles. |
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Sep 8 2003, 08:40 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
Who else would have the cojones to claim to be Loremaster and have the knowlege of the dragon culture displayed there? It couldn't have been Hestaby because Loremaster responded directly to something Orange Queen said in one book (don't ask me which). The only other person that would possibly do that would be Alamais, but he never seemed the type to hop on Shadowland.
Lofwyr didn't agree with what Big D did, but he obviously didn't mind taking his inheritance of the Jewel of Memory. Lofwyr definately wasn't as hardcore about keeping the old ways as Aden was. I think Loremaster is Lofwyr. Which brings up a question...after the events in Survival of the Fittest, do you think that Aden claimed his inheritance or do you think he still has it hanging in that museum or wherever he stashed it? The Abstruse One |
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Sep 8 2003, 09:10 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
One large change from the FASA days: back in the Dragons.Pdf, it hints that there are more than one Council of Great Dragons,a nd thus more than one Loremaster.
Maybe after the down-cycle hunting, the Greats decided they just had enough for one Council and reorganized. |
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 Sep 8 2003, 09:19 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,359 Joined: 25-June 02 From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada (go Canucks!) Member No.: 2,904 |
*Stands up in the middle of a crowd of soldiers, raising his sword above his head and shouts, "I AM LOREMASTER!!!" :grinbig:
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Sep 8 2003, 09:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 731 Joined: 25-March 02 From: Rye, New York Member No.: 2,470 |
and promptly gets swatted for his arrogance by the nearest worm.
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Sep 9 2003, 12:59 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
Actually, there are more Greats in SR than in ED from what recall. For one thing, there isn't a single Great Eastern or Feathered Serpent in ED. Plus, many of the younger dragons in ED made it to Great status during the downcycle.
BTW, it's "wyrm" when refering to a dragon. :P The Abstruse One |
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Sep 9 2003, 01:06 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Not quite true, there was two or three Great Easterns mentioned by name, at least one of which was living. Also, most Great Dragons in ED were limited to Barsaive and environs; whereas the GD's in SR are from all over the world.
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Sep 9 2003, 04:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 14-May 03 From: Detroit, Michigan Member No.: 4,583 |
The following four eastern dragons in Earthdawn I've read about on the web. All are great except for possibly Dvilgaynon.
Luung -> Guess Who? C'mon Guess. Dvilgaynon -> Played a small part in the Barsaive At War campaign Earthroot -> An Eastern dragon living underground in Barsaive White Lotus -> A female Eastern dragon that may have chased Earthroot out of Cathcay lands. |
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Sep 9 2003, 04:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,768 |
These dragons could do with cooler titles... Sure, Gold-Master and Doll-Maker seem nice enough, until you notice there are people titled "The Dowager of the Irreverent Vulgate in Unrent Veils" two game systems over :D .
I am Jack's post-Exalted high. Still, this sort of extremely ritualistic titling would do wonders do enforce the weird feel of dragon society, should your characters ever come across this bit of trivia in their lives. |
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Sep 10 2003, 07:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: 5-September 03 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Member No.: 5,585 |
Out of interest, are there any dragons (ok, Wyrms) in Australia, Great or otherwise?
I'd just think, with the whole "Rainbow serpent thing", there must have been a few, at least... I mean, large empty landscape, abundance of natural resources, tectonically-stable... It just makes a little sense. |
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Sep 10 2003, 09:01 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
The Aussie dragon gets some more coverage in the "Dragons of the Sixth World" sourcebook.
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