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post Feb 26 2005, 10:36 AM
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How do you work Karma Pool? Do we apply one of the awarded Good Karma points towards it (when we have accumulated enough), or is the addition to the Pool considered to be a seperate entity. I have seem both variations used in the past.
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post Feb 26 2005, 12:03 PM
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You have to place one of your own karma into Karma Pool. It's not a freebie in my games.
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post Feb 26 2005, 12:05 PM
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That's cool. I figured it's better to ask beforehand than it is to assume and be wrong.

Not quite there yet anyway, being an elf and all. :)
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post Feb 26 2005, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter @ Feb 25 2005, 01:41 PM)
QUOTE (Sandoval Smith @ Feb 25 2005, 07:59 AM)
Hey, HMHVV, one thing I'm wondering about Rebo: why is he convinced that ALL magic is psi power? It just seems kind of strange. 


That's the psionicist mindset; that magic isn't "magic" at all, but the workings of the human mind and the psychic power that comes from it.

That's also why he refers to spirits as "extra-dimensionals."

The basic rules are in Magic in the Shadows.

I don't have my copy of MitS with me, but that's not how I remember the description. Although the rules for psi-powers are exactly the same as for magic, psi-users believe that theirs come from their mind (thus saving the pain of having to make any sort of seperate rules for psi powers). So any magic that _they_ do is psi powered, but not the magic that most everyone else does.

It seems rather ridiculous to try and claim that _all_ magic is psi related, because there is too much evidence to the contrary. It'd be a stance that wouldn't be able to stand up in a high school debate, much less confrontation with any other magic user.

Sphynx, as for the game, I think that it's going really well, and moving quickly, because you try hard to keep people posting regularly. A great success in all regards.
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post Feb 26 2005, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Sandoval Smith)
QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter @ Feb 25 2005, 01:41 PM)
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Hey, HMHVV, one thing I'm wondering about Rebo: why is he convinced that ALL magic is psi power? It just seems kind of strange. 


That's the psionicist mindset; that magic isn't "magic" at all, but the workings of the human mind and the psychic power that comes from it.

That's also why he refers to spirits as "extra-dimensionals."

The basic rules are in Magic in the Shadows.

I don't have my copy of MitS with me, but that's not how I remember the description. Although the rules for psi-powers are exactly the same as for magic, psi-users believe that theirs come from their mind (thus saving the pain of having to make any sort of seperate rules for psi powers). So any magic that _they_ do is psi powered, but not the magic that most everyone else does.

It seems rather ridiculous to try and claim that _all_ magic is psi related, because there is too much evidence to the contrary. It'd be a stance that wouldn't be able to stand up in a high school debate, much less confrontation with any other magic user.

Sphynx, as for the game, I think that it's going really well, and moving quickly, because you try hard to keep people posting regularly. A great success in all regards.

The book says:

"An awakened character who follows this path believes ALL magical abilities spring from the unleashed power of the human mind."

Also, there was an entry in an old book called "Awakenings: New Magic in 2057" that was written by a psionicist. He held the same attitude that my character does, except he was a lot more venom-filled, saying stuff like, ""Forget all the fairy-tale drek, forget spells and spirits and all that drek, it's just your brain working its own "magic" on electromagnetic energy...No skin off my nose if you'd rather believe you're some fantasy-mage type with a magic wand..."

So while psionics acknowledge that others might BELIEVE that they're working "magic," they don't believe it really is magic.

In any case, it's a fun role-playing experience for me, trying to avoid using common terms like "spirits" and "magic energy" in favor of "extra-dimensional entities" and "psi power."
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post Feb 26 2005, 10:37 PM
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I don't see any problems with thinking all magic is in fact psi. Obviously a psi got a good boost from the Awakening, but it could be held up that all magic is merely applied will, and spirits manifestations of will.
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post Feb 26 2005, 11:24 PM
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Sphynx, I love the game, I'm not posting regularly because I'm not always in the story, so I only post when its relevant, rather than trying to draw the focus to me when it isn't required. I do appreciate you trying to draw me in the story more, and I'll post to accomodate.
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post Feb 27 2005, 03:39 AM
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I gotta say this is an AWSOME game. The posting 5 days at a time is kinda tough, but it really keeps it moving. 3 of us are in "Yarrrr" and look how slow thats moving in compairison.

And Woooo for being a human. 2 karma pool here I come!
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post Feb 27 2005, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE (Tarantula)
Sphynx, I love the game, I'm not posting regularly because I'm not always in the story, so I only post when its relevant, rather than trying to draw the focus to me when it isn't required. I do appreciate you trying to draw me in the story more, and I'll post to accomodate.

It's a vicious cycle. You aren't 'in the game' as much because you don't post as often. Even a post that describes your reaction to something, even if it isn't actually furthering the present action, will cause your character to be more involved.
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post Feb 27 2005, 06:23 AM
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If you dont post, you get abused by dragons. Case in point, Me! There was a reason i got smacked between rocks (cause up to that point I posted mabey 3 a week, and have stopped worrying about making good long involved posts and just getting the ideas out).
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post Feb 27 2005, 06:25 AM
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My evaluation:

I really like how this game is progressing. Everyone seems to be more or less involved, and things are moving along nicely. I wish all PbP games moved this fast; I'd join more of them if they did.

On a side note, I won't have regular access to the internet next week (from about the 5th to the 13th). I'll do what I can to post every day, but I can't guarantee anything.
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post Feb 27 2005, 07:18 AM
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Fortune, while I realize that, but if I go over here, and start cleaning my drones, then some other people do things, getting ready, and discussing, then some more talking ensues, while I'm still over there cleaning drones, and so on. I dunno, I figure talking takes a lot less time that doing other things, so I stay out while I'm preoccupied. Anyway, I'm not complaining about my lesser karma, because I'm posting less, thats fine. Just saying, I'm glad he'll make an effort to get me more involved, which will cause me to post more.
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post Feb 27 2005, 08:12 AM
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Don't forget, you don't always have to post what you intend to do, but also, what happened. The best posts are the ones where someone re-describes what I described, from their character's perspective. Good PBP storytelling looks a bit like this:

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That way people get a feel for your own character, stuff they wouldn't see in a "Then I:" sort of post. :) In games I play in, when I have nothing further to say, I tend to either purely roleplay (look at the B&E thread), or post the past (ES_S did a fabulous job of that in her karma-awarded post).

Just thoughts to help. :)
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post Feb 28 2005, 02:32 AM
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QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter)
So while psionics acknowledge that others might BELIEVE that they're working "magic," they don't believe it really is magic.

In any case, it's a fun role-playing experience for me, trying to avoid using common terms like "spirits" and "magic energy" in favor of "extra-dimensional entities" and "psi power."

Hrm, I don't have 'Awakenings,' and yeah, that's what MitS says, but it still seems pretty ridiculous to me that to have psychic powers means embracing a viewpoint that flies in the face of fact, and evidence as much as believing that the world is only 6,000 years old (so yeah, people do it, but they are filtering their world view to a ridiculous extent). It's just a much more well adjusted mental stance to say, 'My powers come from my mind, but that dragon over there is magic all the way.'

YMMV.
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post Feb 28 2005, 06:18 PM
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Yes! I get to talk with Rebo about PSI forms finally!
Lets just not let Sleel get eaten... cause that would be bad.
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post Feb 28 2005, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE (Lindt)
Lets just not let Sleel get eaten... cause that would be bad.

Has there ever been an instance in which the consumption of a party member was a _good_ thing?
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post Mar 1 2005, 12:32 AM
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I play the game-that-shall-not-be-named. Arranging for my compiti... erh fellow party members to get eaten is par for the course.

But no, this would be a bad thing.
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post Mar 1 2005, 05:23 AM
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I play the game-that-shall-not-be-named. Arranging for my compiti... erh fellow party members to get eaten is par for the course.

You play Hearts too?
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post Mar 1 2005, 05:28 AM
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queen of spades will screw ypu every time

I did mention thats why I RUN SR, and play Planescape (attempt to give some creditability to that-other-system)?

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post Mar 1 2005, 06:26 AM
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I actually meant that previous post in the context of:
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You play Hearts, too? *crack of thunder, as the game has been named.* My jokes are usually better if I actually think about them before telling them. Then again, that's true for most people.
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post Mar 1 2005, 09:45 AM
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Hmmm, "Materialize, catch him, and free to go". I'm not really sure what was intended here, but I'll try to not read that super literally (As catching and then dispersing could quite defeat the purpose of catching). ;)
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post Mar 1 2005, 11:00 AM
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I hope someone's got another spirit handy, because I just realized that the course of action just taken is a good way to make flatjacks.
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post Mar 1 2005, 11:24 AM
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I thought it was Slinky that was know as I Blame You.

And, just to be clear, is Gypsy still Astrally connected to Icewing, even after he departs?
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post Mar 1 2005, 02:06 PM
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Sorry; I forgot spirits have a Force too (first Conjuring roll I've ever made)
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post Mar 1 2005, 03:07 PM
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Fixing the Blame, and yes, still connected to Icewing (at least you'd guess so, there is a link that stretches for miles towards the north)
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