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Sandoval Smith
post Feb 28 2005, 02:32 AM
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QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter)
So while psionics acknowledge that others might BELIEVE that they're working "magic," they don't believe it really is magic.

In any case, it's a fun role-playing experience for me, trying to avoid using common terms like "spirits" and "magic energy" in favor of "extra-dimensional entities" and "psi power."

Hrm, I don't have 'Awakenings,' and yeah, that's what MitS says, but it still seems pretty ridiculous to me that to have psychic powers means embracing a viewpoint that flies in the face of fact, and evidence as much as believing that the world is only 6,000 years old (so yeah, people do it, but they are filtering their world view to a ridiculous extent). It's just a much more well adjusted mental stance to say, 'My powers come from my mind, but that dragon over there is magic all the way.'

YMMV.
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post Feb 28 2005, 06:18 PM
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Yes! I get to talk with Rebo about PSI forms finally!
Lets just not let Sleel get eaten... cause that would be bad.
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post Feb 28 2005, 11:54 PM
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Lets just not let Sleel get eaten... cause that would be bad.

Has there ever been an instance in which the consumption of a party member was a _good_ thing?
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post Mar 1 2005, 12:32 AM
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I play the game-that-shall-not-be-named. Arranging for my compiti... erh fellow party members to get eaten is par for the course.

But no, this would be a bad thing.
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post Mar 1 2005, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE (Lindt)
I play the game-that-shall-not-be-named. Arranging for my compiti... erh fellow party members to get eaten is par for the course.

You play Hearts too?
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post Mar 1 2005, 05:28 AM
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queen of spades will screw ypu every time

I did mention thats why I RUN SR, and play Planescape (attempt to give some creditability to that-other-system)?

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post Mar 1 2005, 06:26 AM
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I actually meant that previous post in the context of:
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I play the game-that-shall-not-be-named.


You play Hearts, too? *crack of thunder, as the game has been named.* My jokes are usually better if I actually think about them before telling them. Then again, that's true for most people.
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post Mar 1 2005, 09:45 AM
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Hmmm, "Materialize, catch him, and free to go". I'm not really sure what was intended here, but I'll try to not read that super literally (As catching and then dispersing could quite defeat the purpose of catching). ;)
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post Mar 1 2005, 11:00 AM
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I hope someone's got another spirit handy, because I just realized that the course of action just taken is a good way to make flatjacks.
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post Mar 1 2005, 11:24 AM
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I thought it was Slinky that was know as I Blame You.

And, just to be clear, is Gypsy still Astrally connected to Icewing, even after he departs?
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post Mar 1 2005, 02:06 PM
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Sorry; I forgot spirits have a Force too (first Conjuring roll I've ever made)
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post Mar 1 2005, 03:07 PM
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Fixing the Blame, and yes, still connected to Icewing (at least you'd guess so, there is a link that stretches for miles towards the north)
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post Mar 1 2005, 03:53 PM
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Meh, I thinking long term with my post. More of a get him safe, and once this is over your rewards is to go away. No harm done.
But this is so much more entertaining, playing magic rigger tennis.

Tell me thats cant be tramatic, getting ripped into projection when its not something your spossed to be able to do.

And just out of couriousity, would Sleel be in the sky domain or the mountain domain as he hit the ground?
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post Mar 1 2005, 04:24 PM
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Cool, I'll add a little bit to my post.

QUOTE (Lindt @ Mar 2 2005, 02:53 AM)
Tell me thats cant be tramatic, getting ripped into projection when its not something your spossed to be able to do.

I thought so too, and tried to reflect that at least somewhat in my post. :D
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post Mar 1 2005, 04:32 PM
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While appearing to suddenly drop dead to anyone without astral sight, right next to Slinky no less. Ah, morale on this mission has got to hit rock-bottom. Much like Sleel... ...
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post Mar 1 2005, 04:36 PM
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Ain't that he truth ... but at least we all didn't end up as lunch. :D
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post Mar 2 2005, 11:03 AM
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I just wanted to comment that I think Rebo's ascertations about magic are far closer to the system than the rest of you. The only "magic" I see is the conjuring of Elementals. "Mages", should anyone actually still call them that, and "Shamans" particularly are really just bending the world to their psyche. You don't see components being thrown, incantations being recited, or any other magic mumble-jumble (unless they willingly limit themselves to that). People are taking their self-granted psychic power and calling it magic to make people feel better about it. I mean, it's so much nicer to believe that someone's using an external source of power to perform these fantastic feats than to accept that that someone is just so much stronger mentally that he can, without external help, create such incredible feats. After all, that's the real difference between Magic and Psychic power. Magic takes an external source (astral energy?) and manipulates it. A Psychic just does it with his mind. And a Shaman, some external source of power that is deitic in nature. Yeah, that's believable. Anyone who calls it "Magic" is obviously just deluding themselves, or trying to hide from the general public that their power comes from within. Personally I'm guessing it's the 2nd, because even I'd be scared that I was lower on the evolutionary chain if people around me could bend things with their minds, and I couldn't.

Anyhows, even if there is such a thing as Astral Energy that you bend with your mind, I'd still call it psychic, as you're not reciting some archaic inscriptions while tossing fairy dust in the air. Everything you do is with your mind alone. I should just dock karma from anyone who thinks their magic comes from anywhere other than psychic power (elemental conjuring being the exception of course). :P

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PS. Jus tkidding about docking karma. ;)
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post Mar 2 2005, 05:16 PM
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I just have to say ... whatever!

I am playing a mage. He uses Magic! Rebo can call it what you like, but it isn't the default of the game setting.
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post Mar 2 2005, 06:34 PM
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Just wondering: it says that a week has passed, and a while ago I mentioned I wanted to learn Manaball at Force 6 (which would take 6 days). How many days do I have left?
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post Mar 2 2005, 07:09 PM
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A week has passed since we started. I don't think it has been a week since you resolved to learn the spell (which was after the battle with the Shades and The Hate). Actually, I would be surprised if more than a day or two has gone by since then.

Incidently, how do you go about learning spells (or whatever) without a formula?
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post Mar 3 2005, 12:14 AM
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A week has passed since we started. I don't think it has been a week since you resolved to learn the spell (which was after the battle with the Shades and The Hate). Actually, I would be surprised if more than a day or two has gone by since then.

Incidently, how do you go about learning spells (or whatever) without a formula?

That's the thing about being a psionic; they can't learn spells via formulae, so they have to come up with spells themselves (MitS calls it "discovering their power") or have it taught to them by another psionic.
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post Mar 3 2005, 01:58 AM
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That's cool. I just figured I'd ask, as it occured to me when I was away from my books.
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post Mar 3 2005, 11:51 AM
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Escape from Ireland.

Not starring Kurt Russel. First off, could we use multiple spirits to drag our sorry asses through the water towards merry new England? Second, with our variety of magic types, can anyone freeze a bug chunk of water? Also, with our variety of cyber types, we can probably scope the out the shoreline below us pretty well (I can also borrow the shades back from Meneer for a moment) see if there is any amount of driftwood, or other floaty stuff. Then we just have to get down to the water. More levitate spells to drift down to the beach?
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post Mar 3 2005, 12:14 PM
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I will assume these are not questions for me, right? .... :P
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post Mar 3 2005, 12:33 PM
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Hmm, I was a little less than clear...

The questions relating to magic are for the other players. The ones about if we can see anything useful on the shoreline down below is for the almighty GM.
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