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 Jan 14 2005, 01:02 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 13-January 05 From: The Lair Member No.: 6,975  |
Do Flash-Paks cover an area? Or are they pointed toward your opponent (like a claymore)? Do I treat them like the DEF-TEC flash-bangs? If so, what's their area of effect? And would I use grenade blast rules ('cept there's no Damage Level to stage)?
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Jan 14 2005, 01:12 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
My understanding is that flash packs are directional and worn on the shoulder or handheld. They either are used from behind the plane of peripheral vision at a wide dispersal on the shoulder or above the head, or in a narrower beam from within the range of vision like a flashlight.
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Jan 14 2005, 01:15 AM
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UMS O.G. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 444 Joined: 18-May 04 Member No.: 6,335 |
They also work great front mounted on a riot shield (behind the armor) or slid across the floor into a room. Throwing them can't be a good idea due to breakage and getting them facing the right way.
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Jan 14 2005, 01:19 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
I am sure there are grenade versions of this with a little stun thrown into the mix.
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Jan 14 2005, 01:23 AM
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UMS O.G. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 444 Joined: 18-May 04 Member No.: 6,335 |
Sure, dual charge grenades. Half stun, half flash which everyone naturally refers to as flashbangs.
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Jan 14 2005, 01:24 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
Or if you read Shapcano's stuff, link 6 of them for simultaneous detonation and get a Bee-Bop.
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Jan 14 2005, 03:16 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Except that their power's crap and anyone with flare compensation and dampeners can shrug it off fairly easily IIRC. Granted that's the whole point of having them though. :) |
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Jan 14 2005, 04:46 AM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
mounted under-barrel during a night fight.
can you say "OW MY EYES"??? :grinbig: |
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Jan 14 2005, 03:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 26-March 03 Member No.: 4,335 |
Since I always thought of FlashPaks as basically a pack of flashbulbs, I see them as directional, affecting a rough hemisphere. My characters usually slid them across the floor, etc, with bulbs pointing up.
Flash grenades are different. I like both of them. |
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Jan 14 2005, 03:40 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
I find they're useful on the back of your helmet when riding a motorcycle.
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Jan 14 2005, 04:26 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
Nikoli, that is just plain mean. What a perfect way to discourage the roving band of go-gangers that you are more trouble than you are worth.
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Jan 14 2005, 04:28 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
:D
It's even better on wet streets with a turn coming up.... |
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Jan 14 2005, 05:23 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
hilariously, flare comp is almost as useless against flash grenades and flashpaks as bare eyes. they provide something like -2 to the power of the stun damage those attacks deal. |
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Jan 17 2005, 05:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 17-June 03 From: A safehouse about to be compromised by ninjas Member No.: 4,754 |
Flash-paks/grenades rule. Hi, you take penalties with no check to resist, have a day.
It always pays to have 1-2 of these around along with a hold out. Yes, really. |
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Jan 17 2005, 06:38 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
I love 'em. Hell I'd eat 'em for breakfast if I could. Very effective.
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Jan 17 2005, 11:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 17-November 03 From: Texas Member No.: 5,828 |
Actually, if you'll look at the descriptions of the two devices, they work differently against flare comp'd eyes. Their effect is modified (-2) against flare comp. And you get no glare mods! Wee! |
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