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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383  |
I just go with Seattle because I'm afraid that if I take the game to another location I'll accidentally violate canon material written about it and thus render my campaign null and void.
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Jan 24 2005, 08:24 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
If they would have picked any other city, then we'd be having the same conversation about, "Why did they pick X". They chose Seattle for their own reasons but what does it really matter? It could be any city, make up your own items to fit your needs. Personally, I think they wanted some notable city that was less well known with a monument (The Space Needle) and some connections to some of the underlying Shamanic roots SR has. They could have easily used any other city/state in the west. I'd also suspect that with the birth of Grunge music becomming more and more popular, maybe they wanted to capitalize on some of that. It's minor IMO. |
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Jan 24 2005, 08:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 10-February 04 Member No.: 6,068 |
Since California Succeeded, those larger port cities (San Diego, LA, SF) were just not available. That left only the one big port city on the West coast to scramble for. Like Paul said, the UCAS didn't win the lottery and dicide to take Seattle over the other West Coast cities. The Great Ghost Dance happened and that was what they were left with when the dust settled. As to why the Authors chose Seattle, It's only a guess, but perhaps that is where they are from, and they decided to create this Arbitrary Future for there own city. |
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Jan 24 2005, 09:46 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
I'm sorry, but its no guess. What Adam said is the reason why. He's probably the most in the know person on here, as far as this thread goes. (Being the SR Webmaster, and friends with the line developer will do that. Bastard!:) )
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Jan 24 2005, 09:59 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
Um, wrong. They were threatening to do so. THey didn't do so. They were kicked out. It wasn't that the UCAS didn't fight it,it was that UCAS actively took part in losing that land. Further more the CFS was formed in the 30's.. At least a few years after the GGD. And really my point is not that you couldn't set the game in Seatle. It is that Seatle shouldn't be the center of the world. The starting and default city doesn't have to be the biggest city evah. You could simply have this city be the default and there you go. |
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Jan 24 2005, 10:57 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
the fact that the US kicked cali out of the union doesn't change the fact that the US lost access to the cali ports.
and Seattle isn't the biggest city in the world. Metropole is. Seattle is just the one that all of the game material focuses on; that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the most important city in the world, or anything. |
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Jan 25 2005, 04:14 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
In my game, I tell new players that the Indians didn't want Seattle because it was too polluted. They forced the UCAS to keep it. I feel this produces the right feel to the game.
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Jan 25 2005, 10:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
MFB, wrong kind of big. The kind of big I am refering to is the amount of resources and interest being put onto that city by the powers that be.
Also note that Seattle is futher,and over more nations from the US/UCAS than CAliforina is. But again it is not wholey about the morons in DeeCee. It is also about the suits down in Mexico.I mean Aztlan, or Japan. |
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Jan 25 2005, 11:08 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Seattle would be the UCAS launching point for any attempt to recover NAN lands or the CFS, which is why it's watched so closely.
If your suggesting that Aztechnology and the Japanacorps are spending more on Seattle than elsewhere, I think you have a perspective problem. SR3 mentions that Japan has developed much of the Third World; compared to their meger assets in Seattle look at Tsimshian, Kiliminjaro, Eastern Europe, and Southeast Asia. Aztechnology had far more invested in Denver than Seattle, not to mention their Spain assests and South American conflicts. The idea is that the thing happening in Seattle are going on everywhere. Seattle is just the archetype city. |
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Jan 25 2005, 11:26 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
But the US/UCAS fought tooth and nail for it before they needed a staging ground to retake California.... And I I would think that California would make a much better staging ground to take the NAN,than Seattle.
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Jan 25 2005, 11:31 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
When you go back and read NAG2RL, there was heavy political antagonism between Cali and the UCAS, and debates that raged between going on without California used the same moronic rational used to lock up all natives in concentration camps. Seriously, you have to accept that SR has politicians making horrible decisions for a 50 year period. Lucky that a few strategists figured out we needed to keep a Western port at all.
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Jan 26 2005, 12:35 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Wherever injustice thrives! Member No.: 2,314 |
Little bit of jealousy there, Paul? For my 0.02 :nuyen: , I'm glad they chose it. I grew up in L.A, so many of my earlier games were set in L.A. and it's environs. Now that I've seen Seattle and lived there for a time, I find it both quaint as well as gritty... PERFECT for the genre at hand. Were events to unfold in the way the game designers had them unfold, I think Seattle would become a hub regardless of who owned it. If you need data on Seattle to make your games more believable and homey, I recommend Microsoft's Trips and Maps program (packaged with Encarta in the MS Works '04 box set). It gives locations for hotels and restaurants, as well as sights to see. Armed with such knowledge, pics and other data off the net can prove invaluable for creating settings. This program will also let you manipulate and save your own locations. I have included all known SR locations in a special file and often use this program in my games. No, I do not work for Microsoft... I'm a soldier in the US Army. Yes, we play a lot of SR and D&D while on deployments :) It ain't easy luggin all those books around, either. |
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Jan 26 2005, 12:46 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
More like taking the piss. Note the smilie- even if he did run it onto the back of the Bastard so it didn't activate as it were. :) |
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Jan 26 2005, 04:07 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Heh, I am jealous in a way, but he earned it-I didn't. I wish I had the benefit of his circumstances, but I am fine with it. Really I am. No honest. I am absolutely not planning on asassinating Adam. Not even a little. Not even once. No honest....:D
I must haved typo'ed the smilie. I have horrible typing skills. 'Orrible! :) |
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Jan 26 2005, 11:20 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Wherever injustice thrives! Member No.: 2,314 |
<--- Loving this :)
(If y'all knew the way Paul and I used to 'round and 'round with Adam and Pistons on the old forums, you'd know a bit about this.) |
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