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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 ![]() |
Lucky for the author that the article's not supposed to be scientific. ;)
[Edit]Although...M-W.Com: "Main Entry: 2quantum Function: adjective : LARGE, SIGNIFICANT <a quantum improvement>"[/Edit] This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Feb 1 2005, 07:12 AM |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 ![]() |
Bird shot starts at 'BB" (.18 inches in diameter) and goes up to 12 (.05 inches in diameter).
(Please note that there are both #4 bird and #4 buckshot, they are two different things...) Buckshot starts at #4 (.24 inches in diameter) and goes up to 000 .36 inches in diameter (though 000 is quite rare, it's slightly smaller cousin 00 buck is used instead). In general 'birdshot' is used to hunt birds, rabits, and other small game. The larger sizes are used for larger game (say, wild turkeys) of for 'ground bound' game that may be among thick scrub or brush (turkeys are a fine example here two). The smaller birdshots (8, etc) are used for shooting small bird (like doves). Buckshot is used on deer (hence it's name) and similar sized stuff. And quantum is probably the right word, being a 'sudden and significant' step up in accuracy... I was recommending the use of birdshot 'inside the house', since in very close ranges, a birdshot load will still penetrate a human body quite well, but will not penetrate walls and furniture as well as buckshot. Note that steel shot will penetrate much better, but has a different flight pattern, as the steel shot is lighter (i.e. you need to use bigger shot to get the same range, that's why the 'average size' of the steel shot is bigger) |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 ![]() |
So that whole class of shot (#9 through BB for lead, through T for steel) is called "bird shot"? Now that I (obviously) didn't know. Ignore that bit from my earlier message then. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 ![]() |
Yes, with birdshot it's mildly desireable to have overpenetration, as then you will not have to either bite down on the shot when eating (ouch!) or clean the shot out of the dead animal.
With much larger animals like deer, the cleaning process is much more detailed, so removing the shot or bullet is no big deal. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 ![]() |
Not that overpenetration would be economic (or ergonomic for that matter) to get in a shoulder arm when hunting larger animals. ;)
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 ![]() |
Well, the extra angry soild bronze core1111 AV ammo they have in SR would certainly overpenetrate a poor unarmored, body 4 whitetail...
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 ![]() |
...and still blow up the Ares Citymaster behind it.
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
Nope. Shadowrun AV ammo won't overpenetrate a dragonfly :)
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 ![]() |
Does it say that somewhere, or does it simply not mention the fact that overpenetration might occur? Because it makes total sense to me that if an Ares Citymaster were hiding behind a whitetail buck to allow a character to attack the Citymaster through the deer using the Firing Through Barriers rules.
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 ![]() |
You sure could. Barrier rating of the deers body, and done.
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