Spell points on a conjurer, Useful boon or insulting waist of time |
Spell points on a conjurer, Useful boon or insulting waist of time |
Feb 8 2005, 10:19 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
I am looking at building a specialist shamanic conjurer (possibly obeyia) and am wondering what to do with my spell points. Is it just me or are they completely useless.
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Feb 8 2005, 10:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 13-January 05 From: Forgot where his meat body was Member No.: 6,971 |
You could use them to bond foci, I guess. Or ask your GM really nicely to let you convert some of them into nuyen.
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Feb 8 2005, 11:38 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Besides spending them on foci (assuming you have the nuyen to buy some) they're a waste. That's surely one of the reasons only a few people play conjurers.
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Feb 8 2005, 12:40 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 12-October 04 Member No.: 6,751 |
If your GM allows, use them to summon an Ally Spirit.
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Feb 8 2005, 01:05 PM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,312 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
Options what to do with your 35 spell points on a conjurer:
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Feb 8 2005, 04:05 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
What to do with Conjurers and spell points.
I asked the same question. Remember, the searh function is your friend. |
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Feb 9 2005, 03:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 7-July 03 Member No.: 4,891 |
So the question becomes, which option is better? As a conjurer shaman, I initiated once (took invoking), and bound a force 3 power focus. Since those increase the size of the spirits that you can safely summon, they're very handy for offsetting 3-4 points cybered essence loss.
Obviously, if you can con your GM into letting you initiate at chargen with the familiar ordeal, that's what you should do, but I imagine most GMs won't go for it. |
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Feb 9 2005, 03:42 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-January 05 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 7,007 |
I did! I let a conjuring adept (mage) start with an initiation (invoking) and an ally spirit. I figured he needed the extra umph. It seemed to work out fine. He only brought out the elementals on special occasions. Most of the other times he used watchers or his trusty Ares Predator.
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Feb 9 2005, 05:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 424 Joined: 11-May 02 From: Marauding the mighty North Saskatchewan Member No.: 2,720 |
You can buy extra spell points at chargen with nuyen, one would think you could trade them back at the same rate as well. It would give awakened characters a bit more flexibility if they wanted to change to focus of their character a little less spell oriented.
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Feb 10 2005, 02:23 AM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
Because a magic user could then trade in one spell point and go from 500 nuyen (-5BP) to 25,500 nuyen (5 BP) at chargen, effectively jumping up ten build points in resources. Trade in four points and gain fifteen BPs of resources. The Awakened don't need to be more powerful, thanks. :P |
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Feb 10 2005, 03:04 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,787 |
It's 5 spell points for 1 build points, IIRC. Shaman conjurers can pay 18 BP for their powers, if they turn them in.
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Feb 10 2005, 03:24 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
The rule for buying spell points is different than the rule for selling spell points. You buy spell points for 25,000 a spell point. You sell them at 5 spell points for 1BP.
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Feb 10 2005, 03:35 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
I would never allow spell points to be sold back, especially not for 25,000 each.
Priority A for money + Priority B for magic (as a conjuring adept) means you get summoning plus 1,875,000:nuyen:. Granted, most GMs would slap someone silly for trying it, but why put yourself in a position where you have to slap someone? Players will find plenty of reasons to be slapped without any help from you. |
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Feb 10 2005, 03:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,787 |
You cannot sell spell points for money. You sell 5 SP for one BP You cannot buy spell points with build points. You buy them for :nuyen: 25,000 each Sorry I was a bit unclear earlier (If I'm right at all) |
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Feb 10 2005, 04:24 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
I was replying to this
I assumed that the priority system is what was being referred to. |
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