PhysAd and Essence-loss, best approach Options

[KawikaKeAloha]

yes yes, true.

i am magician adept. which means, if i take path of the magician, i'll be able to cast spells, etc. not very powerful to learn it only on level1, but still.

[tisoz]

[Omega Dragon]

As there is no 'cure' for your infliction at the moment perhaps you can find scientists/surgeons that are willing to discover the cure...for a price of course.
sounds like a lot of runs and fun. finding , convincing, paying/rewarding them. This could even take several years. Meanwhile you can get astral or cyber until a cure is found.

[katiegreen]

Okay, the way you're spending this karma doesn't make any sense.
1) Initiating twice with a group is probably a cheaper way of getting your two power points, particularly if your group requires "oath" as an ordeal for your first initiation.
2) IIRC, the description of the Magician's Way says you can only take that physad power at character generation (i don't have the book on me).

[TinkerGnome]

[tisoz]

[TinkerGnome]

@tisoz. I misread the rule on the deed ordeal and, going off a misreading, made a mistaken statement. Simply pointing out that taking the ordeal required loosing the karma would be the polite thing to do. Adding in statements about ignorance and stupidity is crass and shows a lack of common human interaction skills.

[Glyph]

KawikaKeAloha:

Does your GM use some house rules? Normally, adepts of the magical way are not allowed to spend the 20 Karma for a power point.

[KawikaKeAloha]

well, we are bending the rules a bit. i mean, we are just trying to have fun playing. if it's no fun to play a character, there is no point in playing the game with that particular character anymore. don't you guys think that also?

i took chose magician at chargen, just because i thought it would be fun to let the gm have some opportunities with my physad. i'm not a min-maxer just curious what gm's do when you leave them some imagination what they can do to your character. maybe i'll loose some physad-powers, but therefore gain some magic. who knows?

@katiegreen: it only states that if you take path of the magician at chargen, you get 6 spellspoints. else you don't get any spellspoints. that's what i understood.

[tisoz]

@TinkerGnome
At first it sounded like you were giving some really stupid advice to a gamer who either isn't that familiar with the system or who is playing with some house rules. What if he had taken your advice to his GM and said, "I'd like to use the last run as an ordeal for initiation."? If his GM is truly evil, he would have let him, and it would have cost him dearly for that initiation.

Then you say you were merely wrong and I was insulting because you offered advice in ignorance of the rules. So I amended my post to point out it was merely ignorant instead of stupid, but why I mistaked it for stupidity - 2 initiations for under 40 karma or 1 intiation for 40 plus karma. It also seemed to me you were trying to divert your ignorance of the rule you were prompting someone to use that would have screwed them by saying I was insulting.

I was. You seemed to be even worse in giving such terrible advice. So in my retraction of stupidity and clarifying it was ignorance, I should have also added negligence on your part in the first place. Such blatantly bad advice, if taken as serious, asked for more than pointing out your mistake. If you read my first post understanding I thought you were knowledgable about the subject you were discussing, it isn't really that harsh IMO.

I don't know if you are still trying to divert attention from your dumbass mistake by saying I have no common decency or people skills. I don't think Miss Manners would advocate your further human interaction skills, either. Certainly not mine.

So, I am sorry I came across as so belligerant and I hope everyone takes this post with a grain of salt.

[Erchael]

@tisoz : imo, even if you didn't wanted your comment to be rude, continuing hammering the nail longer then necessary certainly is. Try to keep your posts less "passionate" in choosing the terms you use and a lot of fuzz will be avoided. :)

Perhaps we could get back to the topic of adepts/cyberware/cruel GM's/initiation/karma/... or anything else intended... :)